I have a G4 iBook and got new for a discount because it only has a CD
drive. That was all I wanted really. The seller, Small Dog, sold it
as new old stock and provided the OS. You should know that if you
find a G4 without a DVD drive you'll have to specify that your OS
install disks have to be CD. Tiger is available on CDs from Apple but
the default medium for Tiger is DVD. In fact if you bought Tiger on a
DVD you can send the DVD to Apple and they'll sell you the CD version
for I think $15 or so.
eBay-ers will probably bid the price of that G4 way over $400. I've
also run into sneaky stuff like little extra charges because the
sellers complain that they are just paying too much for PayPal. I
find eBay completely odious. But you may find really good deals via
DealMac, where you can sign up for alerts on low prices for G4 iBooks.
Also remember that a new iBook comes not only with an OS, but with
other bundled applications that aren't part of the OS installation.
So when comparing you may find that the loss of things like
Appleworks or Quicken may factor into your cost analysis.
Caveat emptor.
John
On Dec 9, 2005, at 9:40 AM, BGbank wrote:
Dylan McDermond at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 10:46 AM
G4 iBooks will require Panther or better. It will not boot into any
version of 9. Just buy the retail CD's for Panther or DVD for Tiger,
boot with the "C" key held down. Nothing more to it than that.
-Dylan
THANK YOU Dylan. I didn't know about the C key. That sounds
simple enough!
Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05
8:33 AM
Depending on the model of iBook, it may or may not boot from that
OS 9.1 CD.
Any Macintosh will be able to boot from an appropriate system
install CD.
The CD has a version of the OS so that the Mac can boot from it.
The only
gotcha is to make sure that the system install CD you have is
appropriate
for the specific model of Mac you're planning to use it with.
-Laurent.
That sounds easy enough to figure out by checking some specs at
everymac or
apple, which I did, and so I'm thinking OS9 would NOT work on the
G4/800mhz,
first edition. I never had a mac w/No OS, so wasn't sure. Thanks
again.
Krow Magnum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 10:47 AM
First, the price of the iBook should be discounted because there
is no
original CD or OS loaded on the iBook. It should be sold with the
original OS and include the CD's but that does not happen all the
time
so you will be responsible to get a licensed OS for it.
Yes, thanks. It is discounted, or "was," I should say, because I
just got
email to my query and in their ad/mac description it had said at
the bottom
of the page "Buy Now for $400" but he just wrote me to say that was a
mistake, as it was supposed to say that bidding STARTS at $400. I
thought
it was too good to be true, lol. Of course he said if no one bids
on it he
would gladly sell it for the $400.
I would not buy one that way personally because there could be
problems you will not know about until it's got an OS on it. Unless
you know the seller personally of course, or can return it if
there is
a problem.
Thanks for that advice. I didn't think about the fact there COULD be
problems unknown UNTIL an OS was put on it. And no, I don't know
the people
but they are a "power seller" at ebay with refurbs and 30-day
warranty only.
Many of the Mac specific install CD's like the one you have may not
boot and install on any other specific Mac. So your OS 9 CD from
your
iBook may or may not work. Since it is an iBook CD your chances are
better that it will work. You will find out when you boot from
the CD
and do the install process whether or not it will work for that
particular iBook. If you have access to the iBook try booting from
your CD by starting it or restarting it with the CD in the iBook
while
holding down the "C" key.
I love that C key tip, thanks! I wish I had access to it to try it
out in
advance but not yet and may not even end up with it if the bidding
doesn't
work out.
Installing an OS is as simple as booting from the CD with the "C"
key
and following the installer instructions. It's easy to do. I would
suggest buying a retail version of OS 10.3 from the swaplist or eBay
as soon as possible.
Yes, thanks, I already zeroed in on two good deals at ebay for the
10.4/Tiger but I won't need them if I don't get the G4-without-OS.
Your G3 iBook can also run OS 10.3 with enough RAM and it would
be a much
better Mac'n experience than OS 9.1 ever was.
I just don't think these 6gig'er clamshells are enough HD memory. I
have
hardly anything on this current G3 clamshell (IE-OE-MS Office 98,
etc.) and
it's slow as molasses and bogs down, etc. which is why I was
looking for a
newer model with more mhz and more ram and mucho bigger HD. Also
it's awful
heavy on the lap! ;-)
If you are going to buy a G4 iBook you should put a decent OS on it.
Definitely, I agree, thanks! Some good deals on OSX's at ebay,
haven't seen
too many through the swap list yet. And since most newer macs COME
WITH an
OSX, the only reason I was needing one was due to this possible G4-
deal w/o
the OS, but thought if I could get it revved up first w/the OS9
which I
already have... but that's history now, I'm thinking it wouldn't
work and if
I get the G4 I would just go ahead and get a separate OSX for it at
the same
time since the prices don't look as bad as I expected (for full
install
versions).
OS 9 on a G4 is like driving a Cadillac with a Chevette motor in it.
Ron
heehee, good one! ;-)
What's the most important factor on an ibook for it to work the
best/faster?
Ram size, or HD size, or mhz/ghz size?
Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook?
The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-
G4-G5 but
one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at
amazon
someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger.
THANKS Ron, Dylan, and Laurent! With all that advice I now have a
much
clearer idea of what I'm doing!
Best regards,
Gail
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on 09/12/05 05:23, BGbank at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings folks, This may be a no-brainer Q... but I don't know...
I'm thinking of buying from a certain vendor a G4 ibook that comes
without
an OS. My Q is, How can you install an OS if it doesn't already
have one?
I have OS 9.1 CDs which came with this current G3 ibook (300mhz,
6gig, 128
ram). Will a G4 ibook (800mhz, 30gig, 640 ram) without any OS on
it, let me
"boot from" and/or "install" this OS 9.1-CD, for starters?
(Eventually I
would look to buy OSX CDs, etc.)
In other words, I'm sure the machine will turn "on," but then
what? Will a
G4 ibook w/o any OS on it even let you get to the "Start Up Disk"
in the
Apple Menu/Control Panels so you can set it to start up on the OS
9.1 CD?
And then would it let me merely "copy to HD" the entire OS 9.1
from the CD?
If so, that'd be great. But if not, I wouldn't want to buy this
G4 ibook if
I can't even make it work.
If it's more complicated than what I described above, does anyone
know of a
webpage or URL that would list "How To" do such a thing, step-by-
step?
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