Philip Stortz wrote:

> actually, not exactly, a proper cd can't be either hfs or hfs+, it's hfs
> or hfs+ enclosed in a cd format "wrapper", much the same way that an
> hfs+ volume is actually an "inner" hfs+ volume inside of an hfs wrapper,
> that's why on older systems you get the "where have all my files gone"
> file, which is actually the hfs+ volume and data.

OK thanks for the clarification.

> that shouldn't be a problem.  probably what is a problem is there is
> data on the cd that is not properly entered into the directory
> structure, it's a hidden copy protection key.  it should work (from
> others reports, i haven't had a reason to try it) if when you make the
> disk image you select the "copy entire cd including 'empty' space" or
> something to that effect, then it copies even random data on the disk
> that may or may not matter, it just takes longer since you are copying
> allot of truly empty space and is a larger file, but you get the part
> with the key.  i seem to recall it's only 2 data blocks on the cd but of
> course that's enough.  several people have reported complete success by
> copying the "empty" space as well as the not-empty space.

Ah that was probably the problem, the CD was a bit fragmented by copying and
trashing files, so I did a 'Optimize for speed' every time I burnt it, and that
probably erased that part you mentioned.

> definitely disable disk burner, if you have toast i can't imagine a good
> reason to use disk burner.  i only played with it briefly before
> deciding that it was cripple ware and lacked enough user controls to be
> useful for anything more than stealing music cd's, which is apparently
> what it was designed for.  rather ironic considering it's crippled so
> you can't steal apples software.  i guess they only care about their toys.

yeah indeed. I disabled it, but didn't had a chance to burn a CD, because I
received a CD from a customer with a not-closed session made by Disk Burner so I
enabled them all again, probably only needed the Apple Packet Media Access
extension, but anyway that CD mounted, but there was nothing on it while you could
see that it had been burnt a bit. Anyways, I'm drifting off, sorry.

> also of course, make sure the disk and drives are clean, different
> drives, even of the same model, will have different sensitivities to
> dust, especially on a cd-r or cd-r/w.

OK thanks.

I managed to make a bootable CD finally. I imaged a clean OS 9.0 CD again and
trashed some stuff, added some, and burnt it with Toast 4.x with the bootable
option, didn't optimize it and just tested it in a 9600, works! :-)

Jay!



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