* From: Richard Starr
     * Subject: Re: Acard ATA 133 card
* Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 09:00:17 -0800

>>>>--- You wrote:
>>>>Hi Len & all listers;
>>>>To run a HDD through an ATA card you must format the drive through the ATA
>>>>card. I've been doing some reading on this as I'm thinking about getting an
>>>>ATA card for my Beige G3DT 266. HTH
>>>>--Thanks; Rev. George
>>>>--- end of quote ---
>>>Yes, that's one of the disadvantages of these boards.  The system 
>>>sees them as
>>>scsi.  You can't just take a drive off the native ata bus and hang 
>>>it on the ATA
>>>card (not most of them anyway.)  You need to reformat it.   A bit 
>>>time consuming
>>>and messy.

>  >>In a message dated 11/19/02 7:23:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>  >><<
>>>At least someone tried to do this for the good of the list.
>  >>>>
>
>All the required drivers are there as separate resources.
>
>There has to be a special indicator somewhere, posssibly in the first
>resource, of which resource to use for booting this specific drive.
>
>Remember, ADTX didn't have any problem with its card, so it MUST be possible
>to make the others work, too.
>
This seems to me to be a driver issue.

I have moved a 60 gig Maxtor drive from a Firewire case to the
internal IDE bus of my Beige MT and then onto a VST 66 PCI/IDE card without any
loss of data or having to reformat the drive at each step.

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I was having problems with the drive in a Firewire case that was connected to
a Firewire PCI card installed in a 7500. Anytime the 7500 would crash 
and have to be hard booted there would be a lot of directory damage. 
After one crash the damage was so bad that Diskwarrior could not 
repair the drive and upon subsequent restarts the Mac would ask me if 
I wanted to initialize the disk, which of course I didn't.
I didn't have any way to recover the files on the 7500 so I moved the drive to
my Beige G3 connecting it in place of my CDRW. I was all set to 
recover the data to
a second drive (all 32+gigs of it ugh!) when I thought I would try 
and mount the drive. So I started up HDST (which I had used to format 
the drive while it was in the FireWire Case) and  no luck the drive 
won't mount but HDST presents me with a dialog box that reads...

"this drive is formatted to run on a different interface,c in order to use
the drive you should reload the driver and restart your computer"
......so
I hit the button, load the driver, restart the Mac and CHA-CHING!!!

There sit's the drive on my desktop with all of the files intact and 
functioning perfectly!

With that success under my belt I installed the VST card into the 
Beige and hung the drive off of it. Once started up I again run HDST 
and get the same dialog box as before. I update the driver and BAM! I 
don't even have to restart the drive is right there on the desktop!!!

I moved the VST card and the 60 gig drive back to the 7500 where it 
has been running without incident for several months now.

Since that time I have used HDST to move several other drives onto 
both VST and Acard
PCI/IDE cards without any problems.

Hope this information can help someone else avoid having to do the 
whole backup and reformat mambo.


-- 
Aloha, Ken

"Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you recognize a mistake
when you make it again."  -- F. P. Jones

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