David,

I appreciate your words of wisdom and I will follow these instructions.

Thanks
> 
> From: David Deckert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/07/14 Mon PM 02:45:53 EDT
> To: "G-List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: G3 biege won't boot or install OSX
> 
> > My G3 Biege DT upgraded with 400 g4 encore, tempo 133, 3-80gb 
> > hardrives, firewire/usb,Yamaha CDR, and Radeon 7000 pci will not 
> > install OSX it has 9.2.2 on 2 partitions and 9.1 on another.
> 
> I'd like to also know if there's a magic bullet. I just installed 
> Jaguar on a beige DT after having 9.2.2 installed and let me tell you 
> it took over a week to get everything sorted out.
> 
> > When I try to boot from the cd I get a blank screen. When I disconnect 
> > the video from the radeon and plug the monitor in to the onboard I get 
> > the samething.
> 
> I am no stranger to your blank screen, to IDE busses going temporarily 
> dead between restarts, nor to Jag's equivalent to the "Sad Mac" (a 
> lousy circle with a line though it, aka a "do not enter" symbol).
> 
> I have a KeySpan USB adapter, an ACARD AHARD ATA-66 "Big Claw" PCI 
> adapter running a 20GB iMac HD and a Radeon 7000 also. At various times 
> they were all pulled and put back in one at a time, and in different 
> slots.
> 
> It's my belief most of the black screen issue is due to the beige's 
> PRAM being too easily freaked out. Of course, with no video anywhere 
> attempting to start up you can't do a normal Option-Command-P-R PRAM 
> reset, now can you? I've BEEN there.
> 
> Alternatively, the blank screen could be caused by X not able to deal 
> with one or more of your drives. I had some issues with two hard drives 
> that had corrupted drivers. This also prevented X from not only seeing 
> the drive, but it froze whatever bus it was one, thereby preventing 
> booting.
> 
> If this turns out to be you, you should consider backing all of your 
> software up somewhere and reformatting at least your boot drive either 
> running under 9 in the beige or in an external FireWire case attached 
> to another Mac. See: if the X installer can't deal with one or more of 
> your drives, the screen could remain blank.
> 
> If your problems aren't related to your drives you can clear the PRAM 
> one of two ways. Either leave everything as-is, remove the battery, 
> unplug it and reset the CUDA and then put back the battery and start 
> up, or you can pull PCI cards one at a time until it either starts or 
> you're out of cards and have to reset the CUDA anyway.
> 
> Try pulling the Radeon and FireWire/USB cards first. I had tried a 
> Belkin USB card that should have worked but didn't and prevented 
> booting. And if the PRAM is wonked-out the presence of the Radeon, even 
> with no monitor connected, isn't going to help. But normally, having 
> the Radeon installed but with no monitor is fine.
> 
> If that doesn't work pull the Tempo next. Since you already have your 
> drives setup pull each except the one you wish to install X on and 
> connect it to motherboard IDE by itself.  If still a black screen (wait 
> a while and make sure neither the HD nor the CDROM isn't moving --- the 
> screen will stay black a little longer than when booting from 9) --- 
> then shut down, lose the battery and unplug it a while. Press CUDA. Put 
> back the battery and restart. Assuming that works do your X install. If 
> it doesn't verify that the CD drawer still opens -- if it doesn't that 
> IDE bus is hosed and you should turn it off and start the computer 
> again.
> 
> Put back the cards one by one; I don't know if any particular order is 
> important. You still may have some CUDA resets ahead of you.
> 
> Note that I have done exactly as I've described above; sometimes it 
> worked, sometimes not. Don't forget to check which phase the moon is in 
> and adjust your feng shui as appropriate. Also, if you should 
> experience chimes of death sometimes (welcome to my world) during 
> troubleshooting don't be discouraged, just hit that CUDA again. Along 
> the way you may try to restart into X but instead be greeted with 9.
> 
> FYI when you finally get it going know that the Radeon will come online 
> much later than it does when booting from 9. With the Radeon it stays 
> blank for the "Happy Mac" (10.1)/gray Apple(10.2) and for most of the 
> Welcome to Mac OS X screen.
> 
> -David
> 
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