Aloha Lil

I have a beige G3 tower..... have 2 internal drives...OSX, OS9, OS8.1 and others....
I did have some problems with starting up in OSX and the other OS's.....I keep them as I get some calls from friends who still use the older OS's.....


Have you replaced your pram battery?

The thing that worked for me....
First I zapped the pram...I like using the tech tool lite program........free.
That helped on my wifes beige G3 desktop...not mine...

I then took apart my G3. Pulled out all the boards, RAM, ROM, video, voltage regulator, drives, battery, ziff etc.....Even the board from the case. I let them sit for about a day or more. I have a place I put them outside on some concrete......for earth ground.... Kitchen table, work bench...works good too. Make sure you make not where the cords plug into and how it goes back together...simple...still best to be sure.
What that does...apparently is to discharge the boards, capacitors, etc...of residual memory and current stored
or something like that....


Believe it or not...it has saved for me a pile of old macs and G3's.

Then I reassemble it all and put in a new pram battery....might as well..... unless you know yours is still good.
Then I push the cuda button...small button near the PCI slots on the edge..... That should be pushed to reset the computer each time a board is added or removed.


Then I start it up.....
So far I have done that to 3 G3's that didn't like OSX...all worked.
On the Beige.... IT IS A MUST that the first partition of the main HD be partitioned to just under 8GB.
NOT 8gb..... 7.9GB or so..... and done as HFS+.



Hope this helps..


Steve




Hello

You guess it! I tortured myself today since midnight with Jaguar. Well,
after a few hours of trying to figure it out and some desperate moments because I
couldn't figure out how to start from my old OS 9.2 I am miraculously still
alive!


What do I think of OS X you ask? Hmmm.... well how can I put this as nicely
as possible... Its terrible. I had seen it in stores but I never, ever
thought it was going to be a pain on my interface. --NO, NO, NO, its NOT my Mac,
I know it.... its Jaguar.


Ok here's what I did:

I cleaned up my 2GB harddrive (drive #2), backed up in an extra drive (drive
#3 which I removed later), then did some acrobatic stuff to be able to put as
much files as possible into my already full [startup] 9.5GB (drive #1 with
9.2) harddrive which I am using now (drive #3 helped a lot with moving files
around), since I am not dumb (you know :)) and I heard horror stories about OS X
so I wanted it to be in a separate drive.


I installed OS X in drive #2 which is as you know 2GB.  I could never figure
out how to change the resolution, cause the image was smaller than the screen
and on top of that it was to the left of the monitor leaving at least 5-6
pixels from the left out of sight, this Apple multiplescan controls can't be
adjusted who knows why.  But this was only the beginning.

When I tried to open files from my drive (drive #1 with 9.2) OS 9.2 booted
up in a separate window (I thought this was sorta cool!) but then, I expected
it to give me the option to use full screen and continue with OS 9.2 (I was
hoping to have an interface like Virtual PC 5) but no it is really weird, then
the OSX bar at the bottom was in the way (its kinda huge), when I opened
Netscape I was hoping to go to my mail and move on from there but I tried to find the
location of my folder but I couldn't.


The only really cool thing (no problems at all) was that my digital Toshiba
3300 camera worked as soon as I plugged it in.  Then again I do have it set up
in 9.2 already (it was a headache but it worked) still that's the only thing
that went smoothly.

I went to my account (profile or whatever) then I chose to start the computer
with OS  9.2.  Dialog came: are you sure blah blah...?  yes I a sure (I
selected).  Restart... happy mac... then nothing.  Turned off then on, same.

I thought oh geez I am stuck! Boot with OS X CD, no way to chose my older
configuration (harddrive) as startup (it did ask if I wanted to keep my previous
startup info I said yes) but then same thing. The installer should have a
startup disk control panel to let you choose the disk you want to start up with
(this sucks!).


So, since my wonderful Beige G3 has this feature that you just open the case
unplug then go, I did that. Started with OS 9.2 on drive#1 (drive#2
unplugged) then chose drive #1 (9.2) as startup. Shutdown... plug drive #2 again,
turned it on this is how I got here.


WHAT NOW????

All I see in that drive is a bunch of unrecognizable stuff, I don't want to
erase OSX since someday Apple will drop support on 9.2 and we are going to be
stuck in Jaguar wether we like it or not, so what now??

THANKS GUYS!!!
Lil

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