(that was supposed to be the title that went out on the message previous
to this, but my PC doesn't like to refresh its dos windows when i telnet
to other hosts and use pine)


On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, gfen wrote:

>
> Biege woes: Zapping pram, IDE connectors.. nop slaves?
>
> Err, no slaves.
>
> Well, awhile ago my then-working beige G3 (with OWC g4/500 upgrade) was
> working fine.. until the drive decided to freeze on me.
>
> Hey, that's life.. I was going to re-do it anyway, just needed t find some
> time, pull out the 2940U2W and LVD drive, pull out the HP CDRW, and just
> use a pair of IDE drives and the IDE CDRW I bought (a Cendyne, based on
> this list, only to find out that it may not be teh right Cendyne, but,
> we'll cross that bridge).
>
> Now, I get everything together, pull all the old drives out, put in an old
> 9gb IDE and a 60gb IDE on one chain, the aforementioned Cendyne on the
> other.. and then I realize:
>
> I have no idea which connector on the motherboard is IDE-1. There's a CSI
> connector, an IDE, another IDE< then a power.. is IDE-1 closer to the SCSI
> or power connector?
>
> So, I've been fiddlign witht hat, and I was being hit with one of two
> messages, depending on what sort of config I had, either the CAN'T OPEN:
> message or NO BOOTABLE HFS PARTITION (this was the original error with
> Cendyne CDRW). Figuring I needed to clear the pram, I attempted to do the
> command-alt-p-r keyset. Now, when I do the pram finger dance, I have
> never, not ONCE gotten it to chime another time. I almost don't think I'm
> doing it right, or something. it never, ever chimes. Ever. I tried to do
> this on an old SE/30 sitting in a closet, and it too never chimes:
>
> Am I retarded? :) No, seriously.. what am I doing wrong when it comes to
> this? I must be doing it in the correct time frame, because I can restart
> with command-alt-o-f and get the open firmware prompt. When I attempt to
> do the same thing with PR, it just sits there, boots to a plain white
> screen and sits there. I've tried pulling the pram battery for about 30
> seconds, I've tried the cuda switch, I've tried "set-defaults" and then
> "reset-all" at the firmware's OK> prompt, and I've sat tehre repeatedly
> tried to clear the pram.. Nothin. As I said, I've done SOMETHING because
> now I no longer get the other error messages, I just get a plain, white
> screen.
>
> Where have I failed, and how can I make my stupid mac boot again? This is
> really, really annoying. I assume its not memory or CPU because it
> wouldn't chime at me before sitting there at teh white screen. Anyone have
> any suggestions at all?
>
> Also, the first revision beige G3 macs don't support slave drives? Someone
> said that if I have the Rage II+DVD graphic chip, I've got a first
> revision G3. Can someone confirm this, and then tell me how no one at
> Apple noticed that it couldn't support slave drives before they shipped
> it?
>
> Bah.
>
> -g.
>
>
>
>
>

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