On Sat, 16 Aug 2003, Travis Martin wrote:
> The overclocking might come closer to explaining your hangs.

Might, but I don't think so.

First off, while I refuse to be lumped in with "those people" (reference 
every PC website devoted to glammed up PCs with neon lights, windows, and 
more fans than the lighting department at Home Depot), I really do believe 
a bit of mild overclocking is of no problem.

Figure the OWC G4 450 ZIF. So, that's 450 at 4.5x100. Figure that it would
have to be capable of 466 at 7x66. I've pumped it to 7.5x66=500, sure the
performance advantage is problably completely negliable, but as far as
psychologically speaking, 500 sounds much better than 466, and by extent
makes anyone hearing so FEEL like its much better. So, a minor, minor
overclocking, barely out of listed specs, and within the tolerances in teh
chip itself.

I honestly believe I'd be having the same issues at 466 and at 433, and if 
possible, 450 in my Beige. Again, let's be honest, its a through design, 
but there's just not a whole lot of air current in the bottom of that 
Beige desktop case.

> pushing it past where it tested. You shouldn't be surprised when it 
> exhibits problems. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, just know that 
> you may get some hangups that you might never have seen at its rated 
> speed.

I'm not, but I do not think this is the issue, here. Other reasons to note 
is that I didn't have this problem in the last iteration of my beige DT, 
which involved a different SCSI drive on an expansion board, and correct 
termination. The current config has a 50 pin narrow disk, no more SCA, 
which has a whole new class of errors that I never, ever, saw with the old 
config (or the original config, which was the G3/233->280, which was an 
odd config, and did deserve to stick me with problems).

> Personally, I've never seen the point, since there are so many other 
> places to improve throughput, but then I'm not a "power user..." I 

I'm cheap, and my priorities lie elsewhere right now. I'm trying to ilk as
much as I can out of a machine that's really past its useful life by
adding such things as more memory (free from the stockpile), a faster
drive (free from the stockpile), and the best CPU upgrade I could afford, 
milked as hard as I could. 


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