Re: 10.2.8 complete freezes

[Kris Tilford]

Welcome to the club. I've since downgraded from 10.2.8 back to 10.2.6 
via the archive reinstallation process. The good news is: downgrading 
solved 95+% of all the laundry list of problems I had with the 10.2.8 
update. The bad news is: The Screen Effects freeze was NOT solved, and 
my System has frozen solid several times including just an hour ago. 
This never occurred before 10.2.8 update, and I mean never, as in NEVER 
EVER. Something in that update screwed my System royally, and an 
archive reinstallation didn't solve it. Further, I'm having some 
strange permissions problems with the archive reinstallation. I've been 
using PowerLogix Cache Control X to enable my L2 on my G4 upgrade. For 
some reason, it doesn't load the .kext and needs reinstallation after 
every restart. The installation fails because of permissions errors, 
but the terminal based installation process loads the .kext so it works 
even though the installation fails. I've installed as Root also, but 
that didn't help. Any help?

I'm not too happy. I really suspect that the old adage about avoiding 
the first release of a new System should now also apply to the last 
release of the prior System also. A little instability can sell a lot 
of software I suspect. I hate to report that this vicious Screen 
Effects freeze lives, but it does. My only guess is that it's in the 
ATI drivers and not in the System itself. My limited understanding of 
OS X would lead me to think that perhaps newer ATI drivers from 10.2.8 
would be preserved and not overwritten during an archive 
reinstallation. I might try digging around in my System and also in the 
update packages to see if I can discover if the 10.2.8 drivers were 
preserved, and if so, delete them and install from an earlier update. I 
believe OSXPM (OS X Package Manager) will allow you to do individual 
installations from OS X installation & update packages, so hopefully 
the ATI drivers are available for separate reinstallation. I'll let you 
know if I find out anything regarding this. Kris Tilford

On Monday, Oct 27, 2003 Andy Hannen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Subject: 10.2.8 complete freezes
From: Andy Hannen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Beige G3 MT 300,
USB card,
ATI Nexus 32Mb card,
384Mb RAM,
8 Gb
18 Gb SCSI (onboard bus)
9 Gb SCSI (onboard bus)
Liteone 52x24x52
10.2.8, 9.2.2

The above Mac seems to suffering from continual system freezes that 
require
a forced restart.
They only occur when an app is using the display for things other than
showing windows/panes. For example, the screensavers (built in or third
party), any animated game (open GL or not). The whole Mac just freezes 
after
a couple of minutes or even seconds. Strangely Itunes visualizers are 
ok.

This started happening after upgrading to 10.2.8.
Is there a way of returning to 10.2.6 without a complete re-install?
What sort of things conflict with each other? etc.


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