You might also take a look at VectorWorks which is a full-featured 2- and 3D CAD program for the MAC- (and PC BTW). Again it is not automobile specific, but nothing is that I know of. VectorWorks is not overly expensive either, and student editions are even cheaper.

HTH
g.
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On Thursday, November 13, 2003, at 10:47 PM, Brian Greenlee wrote:

Well, I hate to tell you this but there are not may "low-end" CAD programs for the Mac. I'm hoping for AutoDesk to port AutoCAD or Inventor to the Mac, but they are still in the investigation stage. There is NO software that is specifically designed for automotive design. Ford uses a package called Unigraphics. GM uses Pro/E and Cattia. Inventor and AutoCAD are the big products on the "low" end. You can get a copy of AutoCAD LT for about $650. There are several products compete with Pro/E but they are mostly available for Unix and NT. DenebaCAD is availible for Mac at about $550. I just looked that up and I can't believe it, that is a great price for a CAD system. Just to give you a comparison, Pro/E can run you $5000/seat/year for a basic package. There is a student edition that you can find in college bookstores. I'm not sure of the price but it only runs on Windows.

Getting back to the point. If your stepson is looking for a CAD system and he wants to do auto design, tell him to take physics, mechanical drawing/drafting, and get good grades and go to college and get an engineering degree. As an engineer (and Mac user), the systems that you learn in high school will not be viable by the time that you get into industry (industry was still on "Big Iron" systems like Anvil and drafting boards when I was in high school). When I was in high school, AutoDesk was still a baby and ClarisCAD was a great product. When I learned AutoCAD in college, it didn't have menus and you had to type the commands just like DOS. I've seen the advent of 3D and am still amazed with what it can do. I'm still glad that I started on a drafting board. I have seen the advent of real CAD and seen it mature. I'll be surprised if they aren't using the stereo-scopic glasses and manipulating stuff by hand in another 10 years.

So, if you really want to spring for a CAD system right now, remember that this software is not cheap and has a BIG learning curve. If you have a reasonable Windows system, you may be able to find the academic version of Pro/E. The only thing that you need to look out for is that a 3D system will use more resources that a 2D system. Get a machine with an AGP video. Shared video will run unbearably slow. Get lots of RAM, 512MB min, and a big drive. 3D files aren't small. A decent machine for 3D will set you back $1000-1500. 2D will run on anything with 256MB of ram. But just like anything else, more RAM and a faster processor are always better. One other thing, most of the 3D programs use OpenGL so you will need to read the system requirements. Get the recommended configuration, minimum will be bad.

Any other questions, let me know.

Brian


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