Hey Brian,

I took a look at my dead G3 and noticed that one of the IDE slots is used by
the CD. Sorry, I was thinking these machines came with a SCSI CD drive. I
was thinking of another computer.

So unless you have a PCI ATA controller card, there is no way to have 2 hard
drives and the CD on a Rev 1 motherboard.


Geno


On 7/27/04 11:14 PM, "MacGuy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Brian,
> 
> You said you replaced the hard drive. Did you take the old one out and add a
> new ATA/IDE drive as a master? Did you double check that the jumpers are set
> right. 
> 
> The reason I ask is, I�ve made the mistake before when swapping drives in
> and out and forgetting to reset a jumper and then have my computer just sit
> there.
> 
> If the board is rev 1, it won�t allow you to use a master and slave drive
> configuration. There are 2 IDE slots on the mb, so if you want to run 2
> drives you need 2 separate cables and both drives must be set to master.
> 
> If it is a revision 2 or 3 board then I�m fairly sure you can have a
> master/slave on the same cable. But you can�t really tell until you can get
> the computer to boot. One of mine actually had a little sticker inside the
> case (near the power supply) that states Rev 1.
> 
> And what was that about the memory? You tested both and they are bad? If you
> have a bad memory module in these machines they will usually start to boot
> and then you�ll hear a sound like breaking glass and then nothing.
> 
> I would also yank out all the memory and install just one module that you
> know is good. 
> 
> Good luck. 
> 
> Geno
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/27/04 6:53 PM, "Brian Futrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I replaced with clock battery with a new one this morning (2003
>> manufacture date).  Now it doesn't power up at all.  I've tried the Mac
>> power supply, then hanged the jumper to PS/2 and tried an ATX power
>> supply.  The ATX power supply did power up, but that was about it.
>> 
>> I did press the CUDA button as well.  After it didn't work, I removed
>> the battery to prevent drainage.
>> 
>> Any other suggestions?
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> On Friday, July 16, 2004, at 12:13 AM, MacGuy wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Brian,
>>> 
>>> Did you replace the clock battery? I�ve got 2 of these Beige G3�s. One
>>> I�ve
>>> just pronounced dead, but it had similar problems.
>>> 
>>> These machines start doing some funky stuff when the battery is weak.
>>> I�d
>>> also hit the cuda reset button. If you don�t know what this it, it�s a
>>> little silver button located on the edge of the board next to the
>>> outside
>>> PCI slot. You should pull the power plug, have a good battery in
>>> place, hit
>>> the cuda reset for 3 to 5 seconds with the end of a pencil, wait 10
>>> seconds
>>> and then plug in the power cord.
>>> 
>>> After that you should reset the pram as soon as possible too. I�ve
>>> heard
>>> that if you don�t reset the pram, the board will drain your battery in
>>> a few
>>> hours. Don�t really know if this applies to a G3, I read it in regards
>>> to G4
>>> towers.
>>> 
>>> Good luck.
>>> 
>>> Geno
>>> 
>>> On 7/15/04 7:11 PM, "Brian Futrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I picked up a G3 DT 266 at the local thrift store a few weeks ago.  It
>>>> had 128MB RAM, a 2GB hard disk (with 9.1 and 10.1 on it!), 24x CD-ROM,
>>>> and the A/V card.
>>>> 
>>>> I've tried upgrading to larger hard drives and installing MacOS 9 on
>>>> it.  Sometimes it installed, sometimes it couldn't find the hard disk.
>>>> I then tried to start Jaguar from CD.  The grey screen with the Apple
>>>> on it appears, the, the animation starts at the bottom of the screen.
>>>> After a few seconds, the video becomes garbled, and the machine locked
>>>> up.
>>>> 
>>>> After this, the 128MB DIMM tested bad on a memory tester (hardware,
>>>> not
>>>> software), and I tried it with a 256MB DIMM.  Same results.
>>>> 
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Brian Futrell
>>>> --
>>>> Sharkey: G3 AIO/266/320MB/40GB/Zip100/10.2.8
>>>> Minty: Beige G3-ATX 266 (oc 300)
>>>> 256MB/10GB,4GB,9GB/Zip100/16x10x40/10.2.8
>>>> Goliath: 8600/200 128MB/2.1, 9.1GB/Zip100/9.1-P166/40MB
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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