On Friday, January 14, 2005, at 02:25 AM, Tim Collier wrote:
I know that this email list is sponsored by 'lowendmac' but from the MAJORITY of posts you can only surmise that the majority of us have Modern Macs. I subscribed to get information that can't be gleaned from other sources. There's nothing like information from somebody who is using the same computer in the real world. Also, there are quite a few really knowledgeable people here who are quite willing (if not eager) to help. Another thing to keep in mind is that all of us are different and have different life experiences. Some of us are more tactful in the way they express themselves and some less (I fall in the latter group most often). There is a group of people who subscribe to this list who continue using 'low end Macs'...either by necessity or choice (I have no clue). They also continue to use OS 9 and prior as their main OS....once again out of necessity or choice...I have no idea. They also 'appear' to refuse to use an application that costs more than (gasp) $100.00....(ibid). These people also 'appear' to be the minority of subscribers. With the advent of the latest G5's and the powerful new powerbooks, ibooks and even some of the latest G4's it seems a shame to saddle yourself to a pre-G3 Mac (even if upgraded). Today's OS is way over what OS 9 could ever do and Tiger sounds like it is going to be way over what 10.3 can do. Once again a shame to be saddled to anything prior to OS X. Watching the 2005 Mac conference was amazing. I can't wait to get Tiger and try out iLife 05. Office 2004 simply rocks. The newest games are really FUN! Using iTunes and the Music store and being able to use my iPod is something you would have to tear out of my dead hands! Proper use of the Mac is NOT chugging away on your PowerPC 7200 (although it 'was' my first Mac). Running multiple apps while listening to iTunes and previewing a movie clip while downloading and chatting to somebody in the next city SIMULTANEOUSLY is the proper use. I'm certain that a lot of you don't disagree. I might not always say it with the maximum tact, but 'thems the facts'.
Tim
Tim... Tim.. Tim.. Where do I begin to respond to that?
Agreed.. OS X is the way it should be and in a perfect world all of us would have ibooks, a nice G4 or even G5 running the latest and greatest..
And then there is the real world.. Those of us like me, who up until last year was chugging along an a 6400/180 with a 13 inch apple monitor.. Getting my 8600/300 and then about 9 months back my G3/300 now with a 17 Apple display..
Is it because I don't want a G5? An nice even refurbed ibook? Nope, not even close..
It has to do with the fact that I'm a full time college student and the farther of a small boy. My wife bless her heart works her butt to the bone in the AF.. But given our budget.. Even $150 for a used B&W takes a bit of saving..
And I think you are forgetting that some of us like this older hardware and for our needs it is still very viable for our uses..
Just because some of us chose to run os 9 ( a dead os) or are perfectly happy puttering along on an 840av ( I know extreme example). Doesn't warrant a belittling or different treatment..
At-least, that's how I see it..
-hth -nathan
Nathan,
Let me just add to your reply, which is certainly a representative voice of of many a Mac user on the LEM lists.
In today's world of consumerism, product promoters try to create need for their products where the lines between needs and wants get blurred. The fact is, most people's computing needs don't require the latest and greatest, fastest, gadget supporting computers. Trying to keep up with new technology is never-ending by design and only for those with the disposable income to do so.
I have respect for those who can turn a blind eye to "technology lust" and stay determined to live within their means. ( Hey, I'd make a good minister, no?). If you are getting the job done with what you have then why feel pressured to be on the cutting edge. There comes a time when you need to make small and big jumps ahead in your computing needs out of necessity or to keep from being obsolete but it's not nearly at the pace the product development and advertising departments want to make you think is necessary. Having a "fast" computer is really a mind-set and only applies if your personal or business computing productivity is hindering you.
I fall into a middle ground somewhere. I've always been drawn to geeky gadgety technology and I have some disposable income for such things. However, I have always been several years behind the curve in my computers because I have not given in to the urge to have the sleekest fastest Mac that I really don't NEED.
Having said all this, new fast affordable Macs are in the best interest of anyone who is or has been waiting to make the leap from old Mac technology to new!
Mike
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