Hi Tom, I think you�re well on your way. Actually the cuda button solves many a problems but I thought you had already tried it yesterday. Was surprised to see your post this morning regarding the cuda button.
Anyway, the cuda button is usually my first choice when things go wonky. But in my experience it�s either a no boot at all or a crash or lockup during boot. But you got all the way to the gray screen with a enter a command line. In the past when I�ve moved my boot drive around from an ATA card to the MB ATA slot I�ve experienced similar gray windows with the command line. You type what they ask but it doesn�t ever do anything. That�s why I suggested the disk utility route first. First thing, your cd that has the Panther upgrade on it. Can you boot from this CD and get access to the disk utility program? If you can�t then I suggest you burn an emergency CD with Panther on it. I just did this the other day and it puts Disk Utility on the disk automatically. You can download shareware to create a bootable CD from versiontracker. Then I�d disconnect the HD with OS9 on it to be safe, install the SATA card and the 2 internal drives and see if it boots okay from your old OSX system. You may get a gray screen when you do this so you may have to boot from the emergency disk and repair the disk permissions on your old OSX drive. If all works okay, then you can add the rest of your parts and see if you get a problem. The 50% / 50% elimination process. Good luck. Geno on 04/07/2005 2:54 AM, Thomas Baker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At 11:59 AM -0600 4/07/2005, Geno wrote: >> Tom, I found the post regarding your computer. So its a G4 DA. >> >> You haven't reset the cuda button yet? If not this should be your next step. >> >> The cuda or PMU is located just above your battery on the MB on the edge of >> the board. Pull out the power cord from your computer first. The cuda or PMU >> button a little round silver button. Take the eraser end of a pencil and >> depress it. Wait 10 seconds and then restart your computer. I usually zap >> the pram at this point (at least chimes) and then you have to reset your >> system clock. >> >> If you PMU has crashed for all these days, it may have also drained your >> battery. The life of a new battery will go from 5 years to nothing if the >> PMU is not reset. So you may need to get a new battery or your computer may >> still have problems. >> >> Good luck >> >> Geno > > Thanks to all the advice I'm getting here, which is very much appreciated, > I seem to be making slow progress toward getting my broken OS-X back. Thank > goodness this is a dual boot machine (G4 733 DA) and I can get back into > OS-9 to communicate with the list. > > Okay, so today I stripped this Mac down to nothing, leaving only the one > internal hard drive with OS-9.2.2 on it and the original 512k RAM chip. > Nothing connected but power cord, modem phone line, and monitor cable. Now > I'm slowly putting the system back together again to see at which point it > will go wonky, testing after each thing I add. > > My original OS-X is on one of the two internal hard drives that I added, > both drives running off of a FirmTek/SeriTec SATA controller card that I > bought from OWC several months ago. OS-X always worked fine (six months) > after I installed it on one of those hard drives, but that's also where it > crashed from yesterday. At the moment, the controller card is still out, so > those two internal drives are sitting in the case dead. > > I found the CUDA button right where Geno said it was, and followed his > instructions about resetting it. Next I put the two 512k RAM sticks in, one > at a time, booting up and testing after each installation, to make sure the > Mac would start up fine, and that the OS-X 10.2 installer disk would also > boot. > > I was afraid to install OS-X right beside 9 on the internal drive, in case > that's not a good idea, so the next thing I did was connect the FireWire > cable that joins my three chained-together external drives to the Mac. The > computer continued to boot fine into 9.2.2 with them connected, and the > OS-X 10.2 installer disk also continued to boot. So I proceeded to use the > installer to put 10.2 on one of the external drives. At this point, the > external drive boots up just fine into 10.2, and now I can also choose > whether to start up from the internal drive with 9.2.2 on it or the > external drive with 10.2 on it. I've done that several times now without a > glitch. > > So far, so good. What should I do next? Maybe put the SATA controller card > back in a PCI slot, and hook the two internal IDE drives back up to it, and > see what happens? The crazy-acting 10.3 is on one of them. I'll wait for a > reply, and meanwhile I'll use my Panther upgrade discs to bump 10.2 up to > 10.3 on the external drive. That will take awhile, and afterward I'll check > back here to see if anyone has any thoughts about how best to proceed from > here. Ideally I'd like to get a properly working OS-X back on the internal > drive, and then maybe I can keep OS-X on the external one for backup. Or is > it not such a good idea to have two OS-X's on a Mac? > > Thanks all for helping me keep my sanity during all this. A great bunch of > people here. > > Tom > > > Art website at http://www.ThomasBakerPaintings.com > Archaeology website at http://www.nmia.com/~jaybird/AANewsletter/ > > -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... 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