on 6-11-05 10:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > People have been ripping each other off for millennia.
True. The problem now is the definition of "ripping off." If I own an LP of, say, GNR, and I want an MP3 of a song off of the album to play on my computer (PDA, whatever), does that mean I should pay *again* for a song that I already have a copy of? According to industry groups like the RIAA, the answer seems to be "yes." > You not only need backups of your data, you need to protect the receipts and > serial numbers of the products you use - the "proof of purchase" as > it were. Without them, you have no grounds for expecting any sort of > recovery. Personally, I'm not convinced you can expect any sort of "recovery" even if you do have all of your paperwork in order. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/07/24/congress_to_turn_hacks_into/ If I (as a copyright holder) am "reasonably convinced" (?) that you have my copyrighted material on your machine, and I "accidentally" erase some (perhaps all) of your personal files, how exactly does the victim go about recovering damages? I have a bad feeling we may be discovering how this sort of thing plays out in the near future (if we haven't already). > Arguments about the "legitimacy" of any DRM schema aside, this is no big deal. Someone wanting to control my box, its content, and what I do with it does indeed constitute a Big Deal. If DRM and its ramifications are not worthy of close scrutiny, nothing is. Hackers get all kinds of bad press for trying to control machines and networks owned by other people. Just because someone has a few high-priced lawyers/lobbyists behind them and wants to effectively do the same thing doesn't make them any more legitimate, just more likely to succeed. > One way or another, on this planet, you are tracked. Be it by IP, > MAC, processor id, tax id, social security number, phone number, or > DNA sequence. I agree: www.capitolhillblue.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=32&num=4648 > Get used to it. ...I'm just not convinced that "get used to it" reflects the sort of thinking that's going to make this world any safer. Or worth living in. The people who put a lot of faith in tracking activities seem to think that the Bad Guys will obligingly charge Naughty Things on their credit cards (rather than pay cash), will always use their real names (ID, apparently, cannot be faked), and that Bad Guys behave in consistent patterns that can be used to unfailingly separate them from the Good Guys (like staying in cheap hotels and eating in cheap restaurants in the case of the 9/11 perps). > And one way or another, on this planet, you are controlled. Let's not overstate things: there are people and groups of people who would _like_ to see you controlled. However, controlling people and their behavior is not as straightforward as it may seem (ask any prison warden or network admin). >Get used to it. I respectfully decline. I'm sure that the authorities who want to control people can come up with all sorts of "good" reasons why this should be, even if the people subject to the control haven't done anything wrong. > Whoa. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to > get you. Or something like that. Or something... [smile] > Yes. That's how they're going to do it. Apple is going to dedicate > massive amounts of engineering time to Intel's cutsie DRM scheme. > That way Apple will be locked into using only those Intel processors > that have that scheme built-in. ROFLMAO. Um, who's to say that *all* of Intel's chips won't have some form of DRM built-in. From an engineering perspective, isn't it indeed easier to take advantage of hardware/software that's already in place? At any rate, I tend not to laugh at a joke until I've heard the entire joke. We don't really know exactly what Apple intends to do at this point with regards to DRM schemes. Let's not forget that The Steve wears two hats: in his role as CEO of Pixar he's a content provider, too: > Pixar CEO Steve Jobs argued that studios should not license their movies for > use in the upcoming high-definition DVD format until Hollywood is assured by > the tech industry that the discs can not be copied by future DVD burners. http://macminute.com/2004/06/14/dvd I'm sure the music industry won't want to issue any more Compact Discs until they receive assurances that they can't be copied. Whatever. Best, James Fraser -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... 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