At 11:51 AM -0700 06/28/2005, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Jun 28, 2005, at 10:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 08:52 PM -0400 06/27/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 6/27/05 3:20:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Other factors (bus speed, disk IO etc, even the way graphics are programmed) have a lot to do with perceived speed.
Yeah, but its definitely my processor getting overwhelmed.

OS X is a piggy operating system. The Darwin kernel is fairly efficient, as *nix kernels go. But the crud that Apple has added on, Aqua and Quartz etc, is terribly inefficient.

That 'crud', as you put it, is why people use OS X over, say, Windows or Linux. And, truth be told, it's no more piggy than Windows or XWindows.

Oh, I know. But comparing one pig with another does not a fast cat make. Nor does it excuse either company for using inefficient designs and producing bad code. OTOH, we need to do our share to keep the workers employeed.

Apple's Java in OS X is a straight recompile/port of Java; it's no more or less inefficient than Java on any other officially supported platform.

johnson$ java -version
java version "1.4.2_07"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_07-215)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2-50, mixed mode)

Interesting.  I didn't know that!

So the 'guys running Xserves' bitching about Java are probably bitching about Apple's Java *apps* not Java, since all of the GUI admin tools on XServes are Java apps (which is why you can admin an XServe system equally well from a Mac, Windows or Linux box...)

I will check/get details. I think they're bitching about the transaction speed of several server packages. I know they're referring to comparitive benchmarks using OS X, FreeBSD, Linux, and ?Win 2003? Server.

- Dan.

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