On Wednesday, August 31, 2005, at 01:43  PM, John Alonso wrote:

  OK OK you've really enlightened me I guess I just
didn't take into account the scope of the problem
(playing chess that is), but I thought 2 minutes for
my move to show up seemed unreasonable.

Are you referring to it taking 2 minutes from when you make a move to when it is ready to let you make your next move? At the middle Level setting in Chess's preferences, it says to allow the computer to make 40 moves in 60 minutes, 1 move every 1 minute 30 seconds. This setting is a pretty hard and fast rule, the computer will take as much time as you allow to compute the various moves to pick the best one. If you open Chess's preferences and set it to easy, it will allow the Mac to compute for about 5 seconds before making the move. This way you will be able to make your moves every 5 seconds or so.

If you are talking about it taking 2 minutes from when you drag a piece to when it actually moves to the new space, that is a whole 'nother story. Even the wimpy onboard video on beiges should me much faster than that- maybe taking a second or to to redraw.

Let us know which is the problem.
Len

John
AKA LakeWalllum

--- Len Gerstel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Wednesday, August 31, 2005, at 10:33  AM, John
Alonso wrote:



I'm new to the list but I thought I heard
something
about speeing things up a bit.
Playing the included Chess game was unbareable.

Two things are critical for what you are trying
to
do, Ram and video card. How much ram do you have?
256 is absolute
minimum, 512 is preferable. Do you have an add on
video card or
running on the onboard video and if so, how much
vram do you have? A
Radeon
7000 or 9200 will speed things up.


No video card, 6 Megs of video ram on mother board
and
512mb of Ram

#2 suggestion Fast video card, Radeon 9200 or 7000

What is too slow for you in chess?

Is it how long the computer takes to make a move? If
so you have 2
options:

1) Set the computer to an easier level so it takes
less time to compute
the next move. The levels in preferences are set by
how long you want
your computer to think about each move. Set it to
easy and your beige
will take about 5 seconds to calculate each move,
set it to hardest and
you are telling your beige to take 600 minutes to
make 1 move.

2) Get a newer Mac or a faster zif (sorry, but
beiges can only compute
so fast and computing chess moves is very processor
intensive). Think
about Deep Blue, IBMs computer that beat Gary
Kasporov. It was the
first computer to beat a grandmaster and was a
contemporary to our
beiges and, iirc, cost over $10,000,000.

If it is how long it takes to display the animation
of the move once it
starts, a better video card will help.

I am guessing it is how long it takes the computer
to calculate the
next move that is bothering you, so you will
probably need to set it to
an easier level. I only have access to my beige at
work, but I am
guessing that the preferences are the same no matter
which Mac you are
on. That you determine how long you want the
computer to process each
move and it will crunch away as much as possible for
that time frame.
So if you have a beige G3 running at 233, it will
compute far less
moves than a Dual G5 2.7GHz, and therefore be an
easier opponent on the
beige with the same level setting.

HTH,
Len




Thanks in advance.

John
AKA Lakewalllum

Beige 266 Mhz G3 DT
66 MHZ system bus overclocked to 83
OWC 500Mhz G4 upgrade overclocked 545 Mhz
512 ram
USB/FW card


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