morning

Related Question - If one has two drive on there Mac
(QuickSilver 733) in my case a 40GB (Main Bootable
Drive) and a 60GB (Surplus & Backup) will my Mac see
these drives as one or as two device?. In others works
if and when the first drive fills up will the data
simple spill over into the second drive? Always
wondered?

rich

--- Al Poulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Andrew:
> 
> I cannot deal with all your content here, but I have
> a few ideas that 
> will help.
> 
> On Oct 9, 2005, at 6:39 AM, G-List wrote:
> 
> >
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 12:17:57 -0700
> > From: Andrew MacDougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [G] Adding a HD to beige running OSX
> > In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Thanks for the replies. I'm in digest mode on this
> list, so I just got
> > the answers now. In the meantime I opened up the
> beast and tried things
> > myself. I apologize for this very long post, but
> there is a lot of info
> > needed for people to be able to advise me. Please
> edit it in your
> > replies to save traffic on the list.
> 
> SNIP
> 
> > Once I had everything working I reformatted the
> new drive with the OSX
> > drive utility, zeroing the data. I also installed
> the OS9 drivers in
> > this process. I copied all my data from the OS9
> disk to this drive and
> > tested it as a boot drive. It worked perfectly so
> I took the 
> > opportunity
> > to reformat the 2GB scsi, then copied the OS9
> files back. This took 
> > care
> > of fragmentation that had occurred over the years.
> >
> > Now my original motivation for installing the new
> disk is that the 6GB
> > OS 10.2.8 disk had gotten overfilled and severely
> fragmented. I
> > installed the update to iTunes through software
> update a couple of 
> > weeks
> > ago and ended up losing the use of the OSX disk
> when it froze. 
> > (software
> > update didn't mention that it needed a faster
> processor than the 266
> > that was in the beige at the time)
> 
> You are using a number of relatively small hard
> drives, all of which 
> may easily lose the elbow room they need when OS X
> is aboard.  This is 
> more critical for OS X than with OS 9.  The general
> advice is really 
> two pronged:
> 
> With OS X, always have at least 15 to 20 percent of
> your hard drive 
> with free space.  Even with OS 9 alone, you approach
> dangerous 
> territory if only 10 percent is free.  With OS X,
> always have at least 
> 2 or 3 GB free.   OS X requires this elbow room to
> best manage itself 
> and your files.  So this places a very tight
> constraint on how you use 
> your drives.
> >
> > I was able to get the drive working again with
> Norton from OS9, but 
> > lost
> >   some files and some of the functionality of the
> OSX mail program.
> > Norton found numerous problems in the directory
> files and everything
> > else keeping track of where data was on the drive,
> so I think some
> > things overwrote other files. I've got this disk
> working well now, but
> > really think it needs to be reformatted and
> defragmented to operate
> > efficiently and avoid more directory problems.
> 
> Never use Norton Utilities with OS X hard drives. 
> NU for OS 9 does not 
> know about OS X file structures.  Many experts on
> these lists now say 
> never use Norton Utilities...PERIOD!  They say it
> does more damage than 
> good, even in the OS 9 environment.  I understand
> there is no version 
> of Norton Utilities for OS X.  Instead, look into
> using Diskwarrior 
> and/or TechTool Pro, both of which are known to be
> reliable and 
> beneficial.  They complement each other, since
> Diskwarrior is 
> unparalleled at doing the single thing that it does
> best.  There is 
> also some thing called Drive Genius, apparently
> rather new.  I have not 
> seen test reports on it.
> >
> > I've torn the house apart and cannot find my OSX
> CD for 10.2, just the
> > one for 10.1.5, so I can't reinstall. I'd like to
> make a copy of the
> > data on the OSX 6GB disk so I can reformat this
> disk. Then copy the 
> > data
> > back in a more organized fashion. I've run disk
> utility on the OSX disk
> > to repair permissions and there are several files
> it seems unable to
> > repair. No matter how many times I run it some
> files for frameworks/hfs
> > and in the  usr/ directory don't get corrected.
> The same errors show up
> > everytime. I can copy and paste the report later
> if requested.
> 
> If this is the disk that you treated with Norton
> Utilities, maybe the 
> Norton did some damage.  After copying/backing up
> the data on this 
> disk, perhaps it would be best to reformat and
> install OS X anew.  By 
> the way, the OS X 10.3 Panther runs better than
> 10.2, especially on the 
> older, slower Macs.
> >
> > I downloaded CCC 2.3 and tried to clone to a
> freshly zeroed 4GB hard
> > drive.
> 
> SNIP
> 
> I suggest you start a separate query/thread on this
> cloning business to 
> attract a specific response.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Al Poulin
> Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil,
> forgiveness is for God, 
> proactive self-defense is for the rest of us.
> 
> 
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