On 10/11/2005, at 12:11 PM, Wayne Clodfelter wrote:


On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:38 PM, Andrea Salvarani wrote:

It really depends,

I remember to have seen benchmarks (I think on XLR8yourmac) showing that for certain games a dual CPU machine can be slower than same a similarly clocked single processor one.

If the application is not multithreaded the second CPU is simply useless.


Wrong! OS X's forte is handlng multiple apps running simultaneously. That's where a dual proc shines. If you are running more than one app at a time (and who isn't), a dually is the ticket.

Still, useless if you are running only ONE application, please have a look at XLR8yourmac.

Have a look at the Quicktime to MPG4 conversion and the iMovie export tests at the following URL: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G5/Dual_g5_9600_9800_tests.html

Another link that shows you that there is very little to no improvement in many apps is the following: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G4CARDS/powerlogix_dual_g4_7447_7457/ index.html (of course it also shows that there are huge improvements in others ...)

If you use apps that are multiprocessor aware or run multiple apps at the same time, in that case you are lucky with many CPUs.

In few words if you don't use Photoshop (or other pro apps) all the time and prefer to play games, or use consumer level apps a faster single CPU is better.

After all recompiling applications to use two (or now four) CPUs costs a lot of money, so mostly the programs targeting professionals and costing a fair bit of money are multiprocessor aware.

I guess that newer apps might be born so, but on this list many, if not most of us, are running oldish hardware and oldish software (some of us are still running OS9, if that matters:-). And many of us are cash strapped, so if for my use of the computer I have to chose between a single 1.8GHz and a dual 1GHz, I'd go for the single 1.8, you for the use of the computer you have might go for the dual 1GHz.

In a perfect world we would all have a Quad 2.5 with 16GB of RAM and a RAID system based on eight 400GB SATA HDD and two 30" displays, but ...

Cheers
Andrea

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Even worse if you run OS9. The apps that really take advantage of a second CPU are Phtoshop, Final Cut Pro, etc ... that are designed for it.

www.XLR8yourmac.com is a good place to have a look at benchmarks.

Cheers
Andfrea



On 10/11/2005, at 11:38 AM, Shawn Harley wrote:

Scott,

I think Bruce, Daevad, Pete, and Amanda are all correct. It would be hard to make a comparison because of the type of app's being run.

I bought a Dual 450 Gigabit from another swapper a few years back. He also had a Quicksilver 867 that I could have bought with about the same RAM/HD setup. He also thought the 2 machines were about equal in speed.

Maybe you can check some Xbench scores for a Dual 1 GHz G4 similar to yours , then check some comparable scores for a single processor machine and work backwards? Won't be perfect, but it might give you some help. Probably will mirror the previous comments.

I recently upgraded to a Dual 1.3 GHz G4 (7455) and am very happy with the results. Got a decent buy (GigaDesigns) from SmallDog.

Shawn


On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Scott Birdwell wrote:

Hey, G-Listers!
I have a hypothetical question for the collective genius out there. Let's say you have a dual processor 1 ghz G4 computer, what speed of a single processor in a comparable computer would it take to exceed the dual processor performance? I'm guessing that it has something to do with which programs your running. . .? Thanking you for your input in advance.

Scott Birdwell
DeFalco's Home Wine & Beer Supplies
Houston  TX
www.defalcos.com


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