You mentioned that you have spent nearly $2,500 on upgrades, for that you could have purchased a new G5 dual 2 gig or one of the new G5 dual cores. All of the complaining is due to the fact that you are trying to run modern applications on older machines. We all know this is the low end Mac list. I love the information that I glean from it, but I sure don't use a 'lowendmac' as my main platform. I use, as referenced above a dual 2 gig G5 which I've maxed out the RAM at 4 gig. It runs everything really well. I also use a G4 ibook 1.3 gig. Now I *do* have 2 older Macs a Blue & White 450 and a 400 mhz Indigo iMac. They're fun to play with, but I certainly wouldn't depend on them to get my work done. Neither of them can even run the applications the I use on a daily basis. Yes, they can both run OS X 10.4.3 but with G3 processors at 450 and 400 mhz respectively, they can't run the games I play. They can't run Aperture, they can't run iMovie or iDVD (they can but v e r y s l o w l y). They're my toys. I buy them, upgrade them, using a lot of the info form this list and then give them away to people in need. Nothing is more gratifying than the looks on their faces. Several have go on to purchase new G4's and G5's. Moral of story. Stop complaining that your older Mac can't do what you want it to. If you're going to run an older Mac, accept it's limitations. There was a thread earlier about the iSight which just won't work on most of the older G3's and early G4's...it's a fact, they're just not built for it no matter how much you upgrade. You also mentioned OS 9. It is dead. If you have been following the various threads regarding the Intel Macs to be released this month, there will probably to no OS 9 on them at all. I'm really sorry to have to report this to you. We have to face facts though, OS 9 won't be around in the future. You mention that you are having much less difficulty with your PC's. You might want to stop and re-consider what it is that you want to do. First thing I would do is stop throwing away money on upgrades that are getting you no results. Save! Invest in a NEW computer. Decide if you want the stability and security of the Mac OS or if you want to take your chances with Windows. What you describe below sounds like you've made some bad decisions, it's time to start making some good ones. This is a new year. Make a new start. Computing on any platform should be pleasant not frustrating...at least it is for me.

Tim
On Jan 1, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Kevin wrote:

Happy New Year,

Today, I have made my NYR (New Year’s Resolution), and it does not include any Macintoshes, whatsoever. Today out of frustration, I have decided to give up on Macs.. Taking the advice of the members of the PCI PowerMacs, and G3 lists, I managed to update these machines – although not easily, and keep them current. Within the last three months, these machines have just decided to go their own route, and do some of the dumbest things. Too numerous to mention, the problems are frustrating nonetheless. What is particularly frustrating is that an OS such as 9.x has been basically forgotten by the computing industry, not to mention Apple. I have one Win95 machine that I am able to use hardware and sotfware slated only for WinXP machines without any problem. My recent upgrades for the Macs included G4 700 and 600mhz processors, Two combo USB, FW, and ATA1000 cards, 4 HDs, and over 2GB of additional memory over the past two years. These hardware purchases were made IAW manufactu! rers recommendations as well as the advice of members of this list group. After spending almost $2.5K on these upgrades and not to mention hardware (I “had” an 8600, 9600, and two G3 mini-towers), I decided it is not economically feasible to keep “throwing” money at these machines with the constant problems these Macs have returned as a result of the upgrades. In comparison have spend less than $300 - total on my PCs over the last year! Try and update one of my Macs with something “current” supposedly, and all hell breaks loose. Well as of today, that hell has come to a head. In closing, if one good thing did come of my experience with these PCI Macs, it was that I managed to teach myself basic video editing with iMovie. Oh, and that brings another upgrade fiasco to mind. My upgrade to Adobe Premier – it ran like sh** on all previously mentioned Macs. Now, I have all this beige plastic, and green expansion innards, that I cannot even donate, because its’ performance is so!
  unpredictable.  Better I trash it all!  Despite my harsh
experiences, those dedicated to using these “ancient” Mac have my best wishes for a Happy and Prosperous New Year.

Rkayblock

Tim Collier
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