Sorry,
veyohzabad at 2 Chr 31:13 (oh is long o)
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MT: yeduthun ידותון
Vaticanus: edeithom A: idithun
2 Chr 31:13:
MT: veyozabad ויוזבד
Vaticanus: kai ezabath other Greek: kai yohzabath
2 Es 16:2 = Neh 6:2
MT: ohno אונו
Vaticanus: evoh other Greek: ohno
Good work, Ken!
Andy
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Date: Saturday, April 15, 2006 7:41 am Subject: RE: [Megillot] Re: osey hattora > Quoting Ken Penner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> [....]
> > I am sceptical because the phonological shift from a long O
> vowel to
> > an epsilon in Greek is rather peculiar. It is not completely
> > unattested (Vaticanus of 2Chr 29:14 has EDEIQWM for YDWTWM; 2Chr
> > 31:13 has EZABAQ for YWZBD; 2Es 16:2 has ENW for )WNW ) but
> these are
> > by far the exception; Long O's in Hebrew (as we find in Qal
> active
> > participles) normally become Omega in Greek. This is enough to
> make
> > me hesitate to express confidence that we now know the etymology
> of
> > "Essene".
> > [....]
>
> Ken, your phonological hesitation, however, could be put in
> historical context
> with, exempli gratis, Philo. You know Hebrew much better than
> Philo
> did. In any
> case, there were variant spellings of names back then (see, e.g.,
> the Josephus
> name concordance; or Esau in DSS)--still even in the times of
> Shakespear. The
> ancients (including Posidonius and Strabo) did not follow all current
> transcription rules.
>
> We have at least five ancient Greek spellings of "Essenes/Ossenes"
> (6 if Quod
> omnis 75 and 91, ESSAIWN H OSIWN, counts). It is widely agreed
> that the word
> has no original Greek meaning (such proposals have been made, but
> I can list
> and refute them), but came from a Semitic Vorlage. Yahad self-
> designations are
> in Hebrew, not Aramaic. And--to repeat the reply to Soren's original
> question--yes, osey hatorah as well as related also newly-attested
> miqsatma'ase hatorah appear precisely in texts already widely
> recognized on other
> grounds, as Essene.
>
> best,
> Stephen Goranson
> http://www.duke.edu/~goranson
>
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