I find this thread very interesting, as I've had the original Apple  
Studio Display since 1998 and an Anniv. Mac since 1999, both from  
MacMall, for $1999 and $1299...both new and sealed.

Guess what? they're both still in perfect shape to this day. The ASD  
(the first of it's kind. XGA res., self-calibration via. ADB, S-Video  
input which came in very handy when my Phillips POS 37" LCD HDTV just  
stopped working...how I miss the Ambilight feature...AND it was the  
first Mac product that is totally translucent, in a stunning mix of  
purplish-blue & blackish-blue, with a gorgeous original Apple multi- 
color logo where an iSight would be) was for my  
8500/120mhz604/2x300mhz604eMach5+/550mhzG4 on switchable daughtercards/ 
128 RAM/4 MB VRAM On-Board/Apple 12" 166 MHZ Pentium Card with 72 RAM  
n ATI Mach64 graphics for NeXTSTEP 4/ATI RAGE 128 16MB PCI/FW400&USB2  
PCI Card (love that thing...was my main system till 2006 when I got my  
Mac Pro 4-Core Xeon system; now it's for OS 7.6 (to play with all the  
Tech of the time, some builds of Copland, BeOS PR & 5.2a, Rhapsody DR  
1 & 2, OS 9 for classic apps/PC Card for NeXTSTEP, Win98SE, Rhapsody  
Intel, Win2k which I still HAVE to use for work/OS X DP3 & DP4,  
10.4.11 Tiger...), so while I'm still forced to use it for work and my  
Web Server, it's my favorite machine; literally a "Time Machine".

The TAM was a total impulse buy. I was going to buy a new G4/500 when  
it was announced, but when they couldn't get the G4 and I was on the  
phone with them flipping through their mag and saw the TAM for $1299,  
that was it. They were already making upgrades for it and I was in  
love. Had them install a Sonnet G3 card in it, and in 2002 I upgraded  
it to OS X and threw a FW400/USB2 PCI Card in it, using one USB Port  
for 802.11g AirPort and yes, it's fast, stable, and the display is  
bright and crisp (OS X in 800 x 600 actually can be made to work quite  
well...just made everything smaller with tinkertool); BTW it's my  
office entertainment center with iTunes and Apple Video Player / Apple  
FM Tuner running through Classic. Awesome BOSE audio and great with  
video. That unit gets NO display downtime; just has a screensaver  
going all night. I thought LCDs couldn't burn out...It may have taken  
me a while, but thx ppl- now I've set my 8500 with the ASD, tfe TAM,  
and the Pro workstation with my two Apple HD 23 panels to go off.

But also remember; it's been 10 years and they're both perfect, crisp,  
and bright.

I hope Apple used the same supplier on the HD Cinemas as they did for  
the ASD and TAM. But hey, if the TAM display goes, I'll get a hi-res  
12-incher to put in there and create something truly amazing with that  
machine. In person it's obvious there was never another PC or Mac with  
that level of industrial design ever produced; I couldn't even part  
with the boxes.

Joey.


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On Dec 1, 2008, at 3:46 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
>
> On Dec 1, 1:26 am, Kris Tilford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Newer LCDs are now lit with LEDs that last almost forever, so this
>> shouldn't be an issue in the future,
>
> Don't believe all the hype about LED lighting.  It's getting there,
> but it isn't there yet.
>
> If you read the datasheets for the high intensity (HI) LEDs on the
> manufacturer's sites you will find that they predict a 50,000 hour
> lifetime to 70% brightness.   A good fluorescent tube has a
> *specified* lifetime of 30,000 hours to 80% brightness.
>
> The manufacturers give no information on whether that decay to 70%
> brightness is linear, front-loaded or rear-loaded.   So they last a
> long time, but not forever.
>
> The HI LEDs currently on the market are barely as energy efficient as
> good high intensity fluorescents, although they may be better than the
> tubes used in LCD displays.   Compared to HO T5 fluorescent room/
> aquarium/greenhouse lighting they are still behind.
>
> The equipment cost for the latest HI LEDs is 15 - 20 times as high per
> available light intensity as fluorescent, although, again, the
> comparison may be different in applications specific to LCD panels
> where 12V supply may already be available and so represent a cost
> savings over providing a ballast equivalent for fluorescent tubes.
> However, the LED cost for 5000 lumens of light is about $300 - $400
> where the fluorescent tube cost is about $20, that's ignoring power
> supplies.
>
> There are some better LEDs in the labs which haven't made it into mass
> production yet, and the technology is improving quickly.   But it is
> not better than fluorescent.
>
> >

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