On Dec 5, 2008, at 2:31 AM, Brian Durant wrote:

> I have had a  problem similar to other postings on this list with my  
> G5 single and 10.5.5. I don't think there was a kernel crash, I  
> couldn't find it in the logs at any rate, but I have been  
> experiencing problems with the system becoming very slow. I ran Disk  
> Utility from my system with no errors. Big hit on performance  
> continued. Checked the activity monitor, but I couldn't find  
> anything out of the ordinary. I booted from the 10.5 DVD and ran  
> Disk Utility again, still no disk errors. Ran fix permissions.  
> Permissions froze.

Permissions froze? The System that froze was the  DVD booted System. I  
don't see how the HD permissions repair could "freeze" the DVD System  
unless the HD itself or the motherboard that controls it was having  
"issues".

> Rebooted. Yaboot gone

Yaboot? You're running a dual boot OS X & Linux G5?

> and my aluminum Apple keyboard refused to open DVD. Hooked up an old  
> white Apple keyboard. Ran DiskWarrior. Accepted the changes, which  
> were minor - a couple of folder icon changes and something with the  
> library. Rebooted. Apple appeared with white background, some of the  
> drivers loaded and then just got a spinning wheel. Never completed  
> booting. Hard shutdown, tried again, same problem. Rebooted from  
> 10.5 DVD. Started restore from backup. 39.2% completed and the  
> restore crashed.

I think you jumped the gun with the restore. I would have reinstalled  
the 10.5.5 Combo Update first. The spinning wheel that late in the  
boot was probably the login window problem, which is pretty minor, and  
can sometimes be fixed by trashing preferences, although reinstalling  
the Combo Update would likely also fix it, and sometimes you can  
simply startup in Safe Mode and then restart and it's fine.

> Now I am sitting here and wondering how and why the damn situation  
> disintegrated to the point where I am at now!!
> Any ideas how to get out of this situation would be appreciated with  
> my info intact.

I never "restore" from backup, so I don't know what that entails. I  
think you're saying you're cloning a backup HD onto the boot HD using  
Disk Utilities "Restore" function, and it failed, meaning your HD is  
likely not bootable at all, and all the original data is gone? If  
that's the case, wow, you did degenerate too fast.

I like to clone using Carbon Copy Cloner, although the newest version  
has had some issues. When I cloned a very large bootable HD I got a  
bad clone that wouldn't boot, and it took forever to clone. I tried  
SuperDuper and it was nearly twice as fast to clone the same HD and  
booted first time. Someone mentioned that the new CCC has a preference  
to ignore permissions when cloning that will make the clone  
unbootable, so I may have missed this preference setting and that was  
my own fault?

Your symptoms sound ominous, like a hardware issue to me. You've had  
problems booted from the HD. You've had problems booted from the DVD.  
This isn't good. Those are two separate Systems completely, and both  
shouldn't have problems together unless something bigger is the  
problem, and that's RAM, motherboard, or CPU. I'd think about RAM  
testing first. These G5's have dual channel RAM in matched pairs, and  
one bad module can really mess things up, and a mismatched pair is  
also bad.


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