>
> >>  >( I have a 4th Gen  iPod with the 'no card inserted' error problem,
> >>  >it came after an iTunes upgrade, defies any pattern and no internal
> >>  >diagnostics, reinstalling etc has helped)
> >>
> >>What does it say in system.log when you hook up the iPod?
> >
> >I am new to Tiger, so I put  [system.log] into Spotlight to see if I
> >could learn where it is , but no luck.....where do I look?
>
> Launch /Applications/Utilities/Console.app
> View > Show Log List
>
> system.log contains system-related messages.
> console.log contains messages related to your current login session.
>
> You can open the folders there and peruse - it's all read-only.
> There's some interesting stuff there!


Well...if you can read Chinese!
here's what I found that relates to itunes or ipod

2008-12-04 08:35:22 -0600 STATUS
----------------------------------------------------------------
2008-12-04 08:35:22 -0600 STATUS Updater started 7.7.1 7.7 7702010 (7.7d16)
Jun  9 2008
2008-12-04 08:35:25 -0600 STATUS Found an iPod - 64519
2008-12-04 08:35:37 -0600 STATUS Starting restore bsdName:disk2s3
podName:(null) serialNumber:JQ535RXPTDS devName:disk2 state:7 updaterID:11
curVers:1.2.1 diskFormat:HFS service:64519
2008-12-04 08:35:37 -0600 STATUS Updating to 1.2.1
2008-12-04 08:35:47 -0600 STATUS UpdaterLibFormat:1191 starting format
2008-12-04 08:36:26 -0600 STATUS UpdaterLibFormat:1193 format finished: 0
2008-12-04 08:36:26 -0600 ERROR UpdaterLibFindQ98:761 Could not find iPod
2008-12-04 08:36:26 -0600 STATUS Restore complete
2008-12-04 08:39:41 -0600 STATUS Removed pod: bsdName:disk2s3 podName:(null)
serialNumber:JQ535RXPTDS devName:disk2 state:3 updaterID:11 curVers:1.2.1
diskFormat:HFS service:64519

2009-01-01 20:21:04 -0600 STATUS
----------------------------------------------------------------
2009-01-01 20:21:04 -0600 STATUS Updater started 8.0.2 7.7 7702010 (7.7d16)
Oct  6 2008
2009-01-01 20:21:12 -0600 STATUS Found an iPod - 78183
2009-01-01 20:21:35 -0600 STATUS Starting restore bsdName:disk2s3
podName:(null) serialNumber:JQ535RXPTDS devName:disk2 state:7 updaterID:11
curVers:1.2.1 diskFormat:HFS service:78183
2009-01-01 20:21:35 -0600 STATUS Updating to 1.2.1
2009-01-01 20:21:48 -0600 STATUS OSStatus
Library::UpdaterLibFormat(DiskPod*, PartitionDiskFormat):1191 starting
format
2009-01-01 20:22:28 -0600 STATUS OSStatus
Library::UpdaterLibFormat(DiskPod*, PartitionDiskFormat):1193 format
finished: 0
2009-01-01 20:22:28 -0600 ERROR OSStatus
Library::UpdaterLibFindQ98(Library::Device*&):761 Could not find iPod
2009-01-01 20:22:29 -0600 STATUS Restore complete
2009-01-01 21:06:25 -0600 STATUS Removed pod: bsdName:disk2s3 podName:(null)
serialNumber:JQ535RXPTDS devName:disk2 state:3 updaterID:11 curVers:1.2.1
diskFormat:HFS service:78183

2009-01-12 16:27:24 -0600 STATUS
----------------------------------------------------------------
2009-01-12 16:27:24 -0600 STATUS Updater started 8.0.2 7.7 7702010 (7.7d16)
Oct  6 2008
2009-01-12 16:27:25 -0600 STATUS Found a SCSI iPod - 91055
2009-01-12 16:27:34 -0600 STATUS Starting restore bsdName:disk2s3
podName:(null) serialNumber:JQ535RXPTDS devName:disk2 state:7 updaterID:11
curVers:1.2.1 diskFormat:HFS service:91055
2009-01-12 16:27:34 -0600 STATUS Updating to 1.2.1
2009-01-12 16:27:37 -0600 STATUS OSStatus
Library::UpdaterLibFormat(DiskPod*, PartitionDiskFormat):1191 starting
format
2009-01-12 16:27:41 -0600 STATUS OSStatus
Library::UpdaterLibFormat(DiskPod*, PartitionDiskFormat):1193 format
finished: 0
2009-01-12 16:27:41 -0600 ERROR OSStatus
Library::UpdaterLibFindQ98(Library::Device*&):761 Could not find iPod
2009-01-12 16:27:42 -0600 STATUS Restore complete
2009-01-12 16:27:57 -0600 STATUS Removed pod: bsdName:disk2s3 podName:(null)
serialNumber:JQ535RXPTDS devName:disk2 state:3 updaterID:11 curVers:1.2.1
diskFormat:HFS service:91055

was this useful ?!?

I am concerned that downgrading iTunes is a waste of time.  I did
> some (albeit brief) googling and didn't find anything that refers to
> downgrading as an iPod fix.  I found several articles that talk about
> iPod firmware problems...  Can you please supply some references and
> perhaps a complete description of the actual difficulty you're having?
>
> - Dan.
>

OK, (i was a bit reticent to do it again because I posted all this before to
this forum and it never showed up - I figured the forum mom had to axe it
for being off topic - I had first tried the LEM iPod forum but it's
basically defunct)

20 Gig 4th Gen:
Toshiba MK2006GAL
firmware rev  BY301A
HDSN 75730152T
TOTAL LBA 39063024
Total size 18 GB
Flash Checksum  0x5EAC
updated to 1.2.1
iTunes 8.0.2

I wrote this description last year:

iPod worked perfectly for a year, now (coincidentally at about the time I
have upgraded to Tiger and also updated iTunes )
at completely unpredictable intervals it will stop music and show
  'no card inserted'   which is under its photo menu - something I have
never used
I have done many re-sets and several complete restore sessions, no change.
This error message comes up whether it is connected to anything or
not, and regardless of what I ask it to do. Sometimes it will play music for
a day,
other times the error message will show up after every few seconds of play
Other forums I have searched archives on have seem to have no
solutions. One person felt it came from a particular iTunes update.
( our version currently is 7.7.1)
What is more drastic than 'restore' that i can try?

thanks much, Del

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