Mel wrote: > The answer might be contained in this: > > "so he could put the original NVIDIA GeForce2 MX video > card back in and hook up a second monitor on it (not to mention a major > area cleanup-desk reorganization and reworking the "spaghetti")." > > Try removing the NVIDIA GeForce2 MX video > card and re-booting. > > Mel > > --- On *Mon, 3/2/09, Yersinia /<[email protected]>/* wrote: > > From: Yersinia <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting > To: "G-List" <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 8:05 AM > > Mmmmm-hmmmmmm.....been following this one quietly, now going to add.... > > Over the Christmas holiday weekend while my BF was here, I shut down my > G4 867 Quicksilver and my USB/Firewire external HD (40 GB drive in a > LaCie enclosure), so he could put the original NVIDIA GeForce2 MX video > card back in and hook up a second monitor on it (not to mention a major > area cleanup-desk reorganization and reworking the "spaghetti"). > While > all that was successful, when it was all done and I powered everything > back up, the > external HD, which had always been Firewired to the G4, > "disappeared." That is, it didn't show up on the desktop, and > the G4 > didn't know it was there in either Disk Utility or ASP). > > Important Note -- Immediately prior to shutting down and starting this, I > had updated my backups to the external HD over Firewire, and all was well > with it. This sounds like the OP's issue -- his FW drive was working fine > until he shut down, but when rebooting, he lost it, which is why this > thread got my attention. > > Second Important Note -- Although the Firewire is down on this drive, the > drive comes up perfectly well with USB -- on the desktop, in Disk Utility > and in ASP -- so I can still use it even though USB is suboptimal > compared to the Firewire -- and is completely usable as well as visible > on the desktop. > > Firewire Experiment after USB showed that the HD itself was good and I > could still make backups > and transfer data albeit horribly slowly: > > I only had the one FW cable, so we tried switching FW ports in the G4. No > go -- it didn't matter which port we used; the drive only showed up when > we plugged it back in with USB. My BF said this meant it could be a > problem with either the cable OR the FW port on the external drive case. > He said he'd take my cable home and test it on his system (he also has an > external USB/Firewire drive), and if it failed, next time he came down, > he'd bring another FW cable (a known working good), and we'd try it on > mine, but this time, he said, if it didn't work, it would mean the FW > port on my enclosure was bad. > > Alas, I didn't even THINK to try my FW cable with the iBook (and my brain > death gets even worse!), but it seems my cable was bad anyway at his > house. Sooo, for his next visit... > > He showed up over Valentine's weekend with a working FW cable he had just > > used himself on his own equipment and, just in case, a four port USB hub. > No go on the FW with my machine, in either port -- which means I have no > more Firewire unless or until I get another enclosure. And the worse part > of the brain death - AGAIN it didn't occur to me to think of the iBook. > If only I had, it wouldn't have taken me two days and two nights to do a > massive data transfer to the iBook totally with USB flash drives. I'd > have done my iBook nuke-and-pave while he was here with the good FW cable > and moved all the stuff into the iBook straight out of the G4 with FW > Target Disk Mode! Thank goodness for the USB hub though -- at least now > I can have my external HD and BOTH flash drives plugged in simultaneously > when needed. That helps a little anyway... > > But anyway -- how in the heck is it possible that just shutting down > could have killed the FW port in my enclosure? I never dropped my > > external HD or spilled anything on it and when I used to move data from > it into the iBook, I would simply unplug the end that was in the G4's FW > port and plug it into the iBook's FW port...so other than the initial > plugging in (first week of Aug 2007 when I got it), I had never even > touched the enclosure's FW port! Even when we disconnected it from the G4 > after the shutdown (to be able to rearrange the area and get inside the > G4 to make it run the second monitor), we did it from the G4's end. > > :::::sigh::::: > > ~Yersinia. > > ________ > > "Never accept a drink from a urologist." > > > Let me please add, suggests, etc the following.
Firewire is perhaps so named because there is fire on that cable. So knowing this, here is how I have always shut mine down. 1. Eject the HD 2. Walk over to the external case and turn it's switch off. 3. Turn the computer off. I never ever shut the machine down while the external case is running with the HD in it. Never. I have always simply thought something can go wrong. I don't do this as much with USBs but with Firewire. > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
