On Apr 7, 3:38 am, Clark Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> aussieshepsrock wrote:
> > SOLVED_SOLVED_SOLVED
>
> > The problem is fixed now!
>
> > There was a compound issue of mis-labeled notes as to what the router
> > access password was and the encryption key password was. My lack of
> > routine use of these kind of items meant I didn't catch the 'obvious'
> > difference between the two based on size of the character string!
>
> It might help to realize that the "router access password" is indeed a
> password while the "encryption key password" isn't a password, it is an
> encryption key.
Well, I didn't want to 'flame' apple for a 'd...@ss' interface issue,
but the whole 'root' of my inability to solve this problem quickly was
the fact that OSX kept asking for 'A Password' each time I selected
our home network in the airport dropdown menu within the find when the
OS was really asking for 'the encryption key' to log into the home
network. Also within the screens associated with the 'Network' contol
panel it always requested a "password" when it was actually requesting
the encryption key. To me, that is a flaw in the interface design. In
my inexperience and lack of practice interacting with the control
panels setting up the network (it really was a MAC-Like easybreezy set-
it-n-forget-it experience setting the network up) I didn't quickly
jive to the fact the router name & password info in the our notes was
specific to administering 'the router' itself and not for accessing
the wireless network the router provides.
I don't see why none of the screens use the label 'Encryption Key
Password'. Our notes have it labeled as simply 'encryption key' and I
think the advanced screens in the network control panel don't use the
word 'password' in the entry points for the encryption key.
It's definitely a 'small' flame! I love my mac and OSX!
Any and all exposure to windows beyond 'simple and basic internet
browsing' just serves to diminish my already low opinion of
interacting with that operating system.
> A password is basically saved and compared when access is attempted.
>
> An encryption key is really some data that is combined mathematically
> with the data in an encryption algorithm to produce the encrypted data
> (which is then decrypted using the encryption key at the other end).
Yep! I was fully aware of what the encryption key was being used for,
but I can never recall it being called just 'Password' - EVER.
> I've run into this before, particularly with routers as there are a
> number of names, passwords, encryption keys and other pieces of
> information one must not only create but also keep them straight and
> record them. I usually record all of them along with the description of
> what they are on a single sheet of people. And when I set it up for a
> client I always keep a copy and give the client a copy if they want.
> Many don't want a copy because they know they are too likely to lose it
> or toss it at some later time.
A 3x5 note card with our routers particulars and keys and passwords is
exactly how we have recorded our info, we have a 'system' for info
sort of similar to this and we keep it in the household lockbox. quite
handy.
> With stuff like this you are usually far more likely to have trouble
> because you lost the data (or wrote it down cryptically) than it is
> likely someone will find the page and break into the network.
>
The info isn't actually 'cryptic' but when OSX asked for 'password' I
mistakenly kept entering the only info on the card with the label
'password' without jiving to the fact that OSX was requesting our
properly labeled 'encryption key'.
>
> > This fixed the 'invalid password' obstacle, but restarting & waking
> > from sleep still lost 'auto-login'.
>
> > There were a string of Campground 'Access points' they had used over
> > the winter clogging up the auto-login 'try' list in the network
> > control panel. Our home network was like #15 in the scroll list! I
> > dragged it to the top and voila all is well upon boot-up and wake-up.
>
> Interesting. I don't think I've every run into an overly long list but
> then I tend to clear it out from time to time.
That's my Father! He seems to be actively working to avoid building
cummulative knowledge from the years of interacting with his Mac,
installing software, finding files, solving problems, and etc etc etc.
Each instance seems to be treated as a discrete individual event that
doesn't aggregate to a larger body of knowledge and experience. The
man just retired from being the lead, goto guy to fix and maintain
quarter of a billion dollar automated and computerized metal
fabrication equipment! It's baffling. He's only 61 and sharp as a
tack. I guess the fact it doesn't pack the ability to crush, kill or
electrocute him in a split second trips him up!!!
> --
> Clark Martin
> Redwood City, CA, USA
> Macintosh / Internet Consulting
>
> "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway"
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