On Aug 4, 2009, at 1:59 PM, dibby97 wrote:

> "Upgrade" from 10.3.9 to 10.4 Installation from disk went fine, until
> restart--grey Apple screen for several minutes, then grey screen with
> "prohibitory sign" where the apple logo should be. Tried again, this
> time doing "archive and install" option after removing old SCSI PCI
> card, same thing. Reset PRAM. Still cannot break thru the prohibitory
> sign.

Normally this sign means a kernel panic. You can boot holding the Cmd- 
v keys to get the verbose dialog. The final line of the dialog can  
often be a clue as to the problem. Also, sometimes doing a Safe Boot  
holding the Shift key at startup will allow it to boot, and then you  
can reboot with a normal boot.

> I read on installation notes that "3rd party video cards" could be
> problematic, and to contact manufacturer. Unfortunately, can't get any
> help on the ATI Radeon 8500 for Mac that I have installed--the support
> site seems to be non-functioning.

The 8500 had a firmware update way back in 2005. If you never updated  
the firmware, this can cause problems in Tiger, it expects the card to  
have the most recent firmware. You can get the updater here:
<http://www.themacelite.com/Downloads/ati-aug2005-radeon-universal-rom-update.dmg.zip
 
 >

I think the updater is carbon and can run in both OS 9 and OS X?

It seems unlikely the video card firmware is causing the panic, but  
you should update it anyways.

Ever since AMD bought ATI there is zero support for older ATI stuff,  
it just disappeared. There's a chance the Wayback Machine of the  
internet archive has the old ATI site archived?

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