At 8:54 AM -0600 9/7/2009, Doug McNutt wrote:
>At 22:55 -0500 9/6/09, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>>I have my old Smurf hooked up to my Hub along with my old 8600/200. 
>>When I was on he Smurf I could see the 8600.  I then put the 
>>Quicksilver onto the network but now I cannot see the other 
>>machines.

What OS is running on each machine?

>One thing to look at it Apple's support of AppleTalk over ethernet. 
>It was permanently removed in all OS neXt versions after 10.3.9.

You're in the right track -- AFP/AT vs AFP/IP, but your information 
is incorrect.  Also, the operating system is called Mac OS X 
(pronounced mac ohhh esss TEN, not "next").

AppleTalk works just fine in Tiger.  Apple only removed support for 
AFP/AT in Tiger.  The rest of AppleTalk (transport, routing, 
printing, etc) is intact.  In Snow Leopard (Mac OS X 10.6), Apple 
killed off the rest of AppleTalk - including the printer support.

>To communicate with OS 10.4.0 and above you must use AppleTalk over 
>internet protocol (IP).

No, he must use AFP/IP.  AFP is NOT AppleTalk.

AppleTalk is a lower level transport protocol, like IP.   It is never 
layered over IP.  Think ford vs chevy, not ford vs car seat.

The the protocol that does the file serving is called "Apple Filing 
Protocol" (AFP).  In versions of Mac OS prior to Tiger, it can be 
used over either AppleTalk (afp/at) or IP (afp/ip).  In Tiger and 
later it can only be used over IP.

- Dan.
-- 
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

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