On Nov 11, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote:

> On Nov 10, 5:08 pm, Jim Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Nov 10, 2009, at 4:59 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a Ruby Red iMac that i am setting up for a 6 year old. It is G3, 
>>> 400mhz. I installed a new hard drive and formatted it to 10.4, that's the 
>>> OS her school runs on their iMacs.)
>> 
>>> I have also installed several learning games that need Classic. However, 
>>> whenever I try to open one of these, I get a message that  it cant find 9.2 
>>> to run Classic. I thought i had installed it during the 10.4 installation. 
>>> Was there a separate option? How can i put in on the iMac now?
>> 
>>> Jane
>> 
>> The 10.4 DVD contains support for Classic, but you will have to install 
>> 9.2.2 separately. Put in a 9.2.x disk while in Tiger, then select it as the 
>> startup disk in System Preferences and restart. Or restart and hold down the 
>> C key. Once booted to the OS 9 disk, install 9.2.x and then run Software 
>> Update until there's nothing left to update. You may find that the firmware 
>> needs to be updated; if so, consider yourself lucky that 10.4 ran OK.
>> 
>> When you're happy with OS 9.2.2, select OS 10.4 as the startup disk in 
>> Control Panel, and restart in 10.4. Once there, go to System Preferences, 
>> select Classic and follow the prompts. One of the options is to always start 
>> up Classic when the iMac boots into 10.4. That lets you put Classic program 
>> icons on the desktop, and your little friend will be able to launch those 
>> apps without any problems. Of course, check them out first since "some" OS 9 
>> apps don't run very well in Classic. If so, then you'll have lots of fun 
>> teaching a 6-year-old how to do the old dual-boot dance.
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> 
>> Jim Scott
> 
> Jim, I have the CD of 9.0. Held down the C key and booted from the CD.
> The install attempt failed. I got a message that said I could not
> install 9 on the volume with 10.4 and to choose Options. The choice
> there was a Clean install and I don't really know what that entails,
> so I quit the installer. What did I miss doing?
> 
> The iMac firmware is up to date.
> 

Jane,

According to Apple, and verified by my experience, installation of Classic on 
an existing OS X volume requires at least OS 9.1, and preferably OS 9.2.1 or 
9.2.2. That's what you missed.

A  Clean Install means just that, a complete new installation of an OS. The 
existing OS 9 System Folder then becomes Previous System Folder. 

So beg, borrow or purloin a copy of OS 9.1 or 9.2.1, then try it again. If it 
still doesn't work, save the OS X applications and other stuff you don't want 
to lose to an external hard drive. Then boot from the OS 9.1 or 9.2 disk, erase 
and initialize the hard drive, install OS 9.xx, run Software Update until it's 
done, then install OS X 10.4 and copy back the files you saved.

I've put dozens upon dozens of dual-boot OS X/OS 9 G3 iMacs with Classic set up 
in classrooms and school computer labs, and I always start with a blank and 
tested-good hard drive onto which I first install OS 9.2.1, then update to 
9.2.2, then install OS X. OS 9.2 was optimized to work with OS X; my experience 
with OS 9.1 in Classic is limited because I've found it problematic.

It's possible to install OS 9.2.2 on a hard drive that's already got OS X 
installed, but you have to have checked the little box that installs OS 9 
drivers on the hard drive when you first formatted/initialized the hard drive 
for the OS X install. So you may have to start from scratch, first with OS 9.1 
or 9.2, then add OS X.

Jim Scott

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