On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Powermac <[email protected]> wrote:
> Low end to me means the basic models, starter systems. If you are poor > stick to an older used PC you can get for little money. Also learn to > work on your own machines when they fail, this means buying some basic > tools and using google to find fixes. > Teo, How IS that 8500 case I handed over in Niles doing? Yeah, what you say WAS fine until you actually try to make some money with them. Then you realize how HARD it is. And whatever money you can make is wasted in a machine that is still problem fraught and unproductive.I guess the trying to make money part and the been doing that for way too long parts were not stated loudly enough. Hobbyist work arounds are fine when you are a hobbyist. When you want to CREATE the constant problems of old systems kill your effort. You Know me from this list at least from when we met in 2003. I think I have made myself plain about PC too. And do not forget my disdain of Linux. I want to create content. Being a perpetual computer mechanic may get you a little shop on the corner. Creating content is a lot more satisfying for me. And a lot less > > The fact is the computer indistry doesn't care what you want, they > need to make money. The reason you have so much crap loaded onto a new > PC is because companies pay the OEMs to include it and that money is > usually all the profit in selling new machines (outside of upgrades to > base models). Apple could care less about basic low end machines > because it cannot make the profit on them that it likes, and people > who would have purchased a more profitable machine might get cheap and > go low end. > > Preaching to the choir. But if The Steve remembers his anarchist hacker roots and has any empathy for the struggling masses and any belief at all in the bootstrap ability of low end capitalism ( a theory we do not hear the Chamber of Commerce preaching anymore, WHY ?) he would put out a $ 500 upgradeable,expandable Mac Mid Tower just to put his philosophy in the right place. And do not tell me it would be at a loss. It is all established tech. the development is already accomplished. Such a unit could be produced more easily than a button can be designed for an iPad app. And would sell like hotcakes. If other companies can see to the development of reading and communication for the third world why can't Apple throw a sop to the aspiring capitalist bootstrappers? I do not think this is asking too much from The Steve. And the good will and further consumer loyalty would bring returns for decades. I don't care anymore if a system bought new is only viable for a year or at the outside two ( horrific statement for a boomer right?) as long as I have made enough money to replace it. Corporations want a steadier cash-milk flow? Then let them provide an entry point to the dairy that is not so damned a big step at the bottom. As long as the milk is good and healthy what does the dairyman care about the size of the cow? ( content creators know Creative Cow analogies very well !) Apple has fostered content providers for decades and been rewarded well. Let them continue to be supportive. And without the need to gouge the teats. Smaller gentler demands will keep content creators working. And they are still a goodly portion of Apple customers. > The only people I know who make money with computers seem to be the > people who repair them for others who have no clue. Most people make > money with skills, computers are just tools and recently just media > devices. > > I'm sad you do not know any content creators. Not even a guy next door editing his band footage? Or an uncle in an attic trying to make the perfect porn compilation! Youngstown University must have some classes and coffee shops. Tusc campus of KSU too. Some campuses even have Apple stores to get the tools into the hands of students with mom-dad or otherwise clean credit records and no qualms about the costs as they have no idea how insanely hard it is to make a dollar. I know several here who now know. Years after graduation with a G4 'book they are paying off and a pile of student loan notices in the drawer. Some even sold their 'books or Minis for the price of a few pitchers of Goose Island and a lap dance. But this is a town where big careers have been made in media by a lucky few and anyway Macs go where the hype industry goes. Recently just media devices? Andy Warhol did a portrait at the Amiga inception in what 1985? Todd Rundgren did a self made animated music video on an Amiga back then too. Oh, yeah, you mean for " recently just media devices for users of other platforms. I keep forgetting the dichotomy. But you are right, computers are just tools. And if Stanley priced their hammers and other tools like Apple prices computers far fewer carpenters could ply those skills. > -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer [email protected] http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://remnantsofthestorm.blogspot.com http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. 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