On Dec 5, 2010, at 5:55 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 4:02 AM, Clark Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Dec 4, 2010, at 11:50 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
> 
> The folks as The Apple Store on the Country Club Plaza (Kansas City, MO) said 
> I'd be fine using a 6V DC power cord on my USB 4-Port Hub that says it needs 
> a 5V DC power cord (they said it would only draw 5V DC). I asked them as the 
> only Universal AC Adaptor I could find has 3, 4.5, 6, 7.5, 9 and 12V settings 
> (Voltage Selector).
> Were they right or do I need to order a cord from Belkin?
> 
> First go back to the store and tell them they are quite wrong.
> 
> -> I spoke to the Genius Bar folks on the phone. Apple's own Tech Support 
> folks agreed with these guys.
> 
> General rules of power supplies in particular, wall warts.
> 
> 1 Polarity is most important, get it wrong and BAD things happen faster than 
> you can see.
> 
> -> I got this right, made sure to do that. It is a + 5V tip
>  
> 2 Voltage needs to be right.
>        In some cases it can be higher or lower than spec'ed but only if you 
> know what you are doing.
>        Otherwise it should be as spec'ed.  Devices don't "draw" voltage, they 
> get what you give them.
> 
> 3 Current needs to be at least what is required but can be more.
>        Caveat to this rule is that many power supplies are expected to be 
> loaded down by a certain amount of current.
>        That is the output voltage drops as the load (current) increases.  
> This is factored into the design.
>        So if you use a power supply that has a significantly higher current 
> rating that the device it may well supply
>        too much voltage.
> 
> -> Should I drop it to 4.5 then?
>  
> 
> 4 The connector needs to match.  This is last because if it doesn't match 
> nothing happens.
> 
> -> When I switched it from Bus-Powered to Self-Powered it worked fine
> 
> The typical power supply for a USB hub is a regulated supply.  This means 
> that whether it has no load on it or it's maximum load the output voltage is 
> regulated to within a few percent of 5V.  Your typical universal wall wart 
> isn't regulated so it's voltage could be several volts above or below 5V.
> 
> An unregulated 6 volt wall wart, especially one rated for 2.5 amps is likely 
> to put out about 8 volts with just the hub connected.  But even if it's spot 
> on at 6 volts you run the risk of blowing the hub and everything plugged into 
> it.
> 
> You may be able to find a suitable replacement power supply as all 4 port USB 
> powered hubs I've checked use a 5V power supply rated at 2.1 to 2.5A.  But do 
> watch out for polarity and the connector.
> 
> -> How do I know the Amps? Nowhere in the paperwork of on the card does it 
> say anything about this. 

"Card"?  Do you mean the hub?

The hub will require 2.1 to 2.5A.  Each port needs to be able to supply .5 A 
and the hub itself needs some.

> 
> You are probably better off just going out and buying a new hub.  The latest 
> hubs I've bought were Belkin 4 port at the local Target store for $15-$20.  
> IF Belkin will sell you a new power supply it may run nearly that much to buy 
> it, including shipping and handling.  If you buy a replacement locally then 
> you can still use your old one as a bus powered hub (for light loads only.
> 
> -> If only I had a target closer than Kansas City (45 miles roughly). Walmart 
> USED to sell lots of computer stuff but after the remodel that section was 
> pretty much gutted. 

Office supply, something.

Sorry, I live on the edge of Silicon Valley so finding a store that sells 
computer stuff isn't too hard.

Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

"I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway"

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