It would be one thing if it was free(like what i use, no plugging) and open-source, but its not. admin, dont be a puss, remove.
Sent from my iPhone 4 On Jan 7, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Christopher Clarke <[email protected]> wrote: > Add me to the list of members who are getting tired to this guy trying to > sell us on an OS thats (1) Commercial and (2) Craptacular. > > Nannies please get rid of this tripe. It doesn't belong. > > On 7 Jan 2012, at 16:31, Jesse wrote: > >> Agreed.... >> >> Sent from my iPhone 4 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Eric Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Of course, I for one, am tired of hearing you shill this o/s. Perhaps a >>> line in your sig, people can email you off list if they are interested. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: David W. Morris <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Friday, January 6, 2012 8:11 PM >>> Subject: Re: Don't Landfill old Mac's >>> >>> >>> On Jan 6, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: >>>> >>>> This list is the G3-5 List. It is usable software agnostic. Since MOST >>>> people on the list run Mac OS, that is what the main knowledge base is. >>>> There are other lists with more knowledgable *nix people on them. >>>> >>>> That being said, *nix talk is allowed, but remember, most people on the >>>> list don't have a lot of knowledge or interest there. >>>> >>>> Just remember, this is not the Swap List. >>>> >>>> Len Gerstel >>>> List Nanny >>> >>> >>> That is good to know. I am just trying to be a good list member and not >>> step on anyone's toes here, so that is why I am being careful with any >>> discussions about alternative OSes for these G4 Mac models. >>> >>> I'll try to keep this as brief as possible, with respect to others on the >>> list that have no interest in using an alternative OS on their G4 Mac >>> computers, after all MacOSX is the best OS available on any hardware. ;-) >>> >>> The alternative OS that I am a strong supporter of is called MorphOS and is >>> currently at version 2.7. It is based on a micro-kernel called Quark and >>> is tightly coded to make it extremely fast and efficient. It has been >>> dubbed "The Lightning OS" by many reviewers, and if it is setup as the >>> primary OS on a G4 Mac computer, it can reboot in less than 10 seconds to a >>> fully functional desktop environment. MorphOS3.0 is late and should be >>> released any day now. It has been developed by a small group of mostly >>> European members who are all former Amiga users who wanted to create a >>> modern Amiga replacement operating system that would run on PowerPC CPU's. >>> The last and highest performing Amiga hardware was created by a third party >>> company named Phase5. They made a few different models of accelerators for >>> Commodore Amiga computers that had both a Motorola 68040, or 68060 >>> (remember when Mac's only had Motorola 680x0 CPU's?) and a 603, or 604e >>> PowerPC >>> CPU. The accelerator came with a modified OS that could run certain >>> software on the PowerPC CPU, but would then task switch back to the >>> Motorola 680x0 CPU to run the rest of the Amiga software. It was a clunky >>> solution and came too late, as Commodore was already on the ropes and about >>> to go bankrupt, but still development continued long after Commodore died >>> and these people from Phase5, along with many other Amiga users/developers >>> that would not let the platform die, began the MorphOS project. It was >>> first hoped that the new owner of the Amiga IP would buy their work and it >>> would have become the new AmigaOS, which would have been version 4 (as the >>> official AmigaOS ended at version 3.9). It was not to be and another >>> company won the negotiations to write AmigaOS4.x and we now have competing >>> products in the Amiga community. >>> >>> Enough on the history lesson. All you need to know about it is that >>> MorphOS has been under development for over 10 years now and has become a >>> very polished and efficient operating system, but it still lacks in sheer >>> numbers of developers and native software, even though it can run most of >>> the thousands of software titles that were originally written for the Amiga >>> line of computers through a JIT (Just-In-Time) 680x0 to PPC translator that >>> is built into the MorphOS operating system. The only Amiga software that >>> does not run without an emulator on MorphOS, is mostly games and a few >>> other applications that do not follow the system guidelines and hit the old >>> Amiga custom chipset directly, as these custom chips do not exist in the >>> computers (like G4 Mac's) that are supported today by MorphOS. >>> >>> MorphOS is not intended as a replacement for MacOSX (except perhaps for >>> only the most hardcore old time Amiga users). It is what is commonly >>> referred to as a "Hobby OS" that a few thousand users and developers enjoy >>> using and mostly only has interest for people that were former users of the >>> Amiga line of computers, or others that just enjoy exploring alternative >>> operating systems and software, like the "nix" users. >>> >>> This list is a perfect place to promote MorphOS, because it is made up of >>> people that appreciate older PowerPC hardware and because over the last few >>> years the MorphOS Development Team has ported MorphOS to several G4 Mac >>> computer models, such as: >>> >>> All G4 MacMini's >>> 1.25GHz & 1.42GHz G4 eMac's >>> All G4 PowerMac's with AGP video card slots that are 500MHz or faster >>> (might even work on 400MHz & faster models) >>> >>> When MorphOS3.0 is released (any day now) it will also support 4 models of >>> the G4 PowerBook and will be the first portable MorphOS compatible systems >>> (big deal for us). The models that will be supported are model 1107, 1109, >>> 1138 & 1139, which are all 1.67GHz G4 PowerBooks in 15" and 17" sizes. >>> None of the 12" G4 PowerBooks are to be supported with the MorphOS3.0 >>> release due to unsupported video cards used in the 12" models. MorphOS >>> only supports Radeon video cards in G4 Mac models, so if you have an older >>> G4 PowerMac that has a different AGP video card, it would need to be >>> swapped for one of the supported Radeon video cards to be able to run >>> MorphOS on that system. >>> >>> Proof of concept screen shots and public demonstrations of MorphOS booting >>> on a Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac and a 2.1GHz G5 iMac have been shown, but the >>> MorphOS Development Team has stated that no work on a version to support G5 >>> computers will be done until they are finished supporting all of the G4 Mac >>> computer models that make sense to support is completed. >>> >>> MorphOS is a commercial OS project (used to be free until about 4 or 5 >>> years ago) but it is available as a free download for a time limited demo >>> that allows you to run it unrestricted for 30 minutes at a time, before it >>> slows down to a crawl and you must re-boot so you can use it for another 30 >>> minutes at full speed. In this way you can evaluate MorphOS as much as you >>> want before you decide if it is something you want to buy. >>> >>> If you have read this far and would like to know more, check out the >>> official MorphOS website at "http://www.morphos-team.net/index.html"; or >>> visit one of the main English MorphOS forum sites at >>> "http://www.morphzone.org/modules/news/";. Why am I promoting an OS which >>> only has a tiny user base and limited software availability? Well, the >>> only way to grow is to promote it to more users and hope to interest a few >>> new developers, so that is my purpose. I am also teaching myself how to >>> program so I can contribute with new software, so my favorite "Hobby OS" >>> will succeed and grow in the future. >>> >>> Take a look at MorphOS. It is free to try and you might like what you see, >>> but I don't expect it to replace your use of MacOSX, as MorphOS still needs >>> a few more years of development and tons more native software before it >>> could be considered as a replacement for anything, but with Apple and all >>> third party software developers abandoning your PowerPC Mac computers, >>> isn't it nice to know that there is one group of users and developers who >>> are still supporting G4 Mac computers? >>> >>> Thanks for your patience in reading this long post and for any interest >>> you may share in my favorite hobby. >>> >>> David >>> aka AmigaDave >>> Dual booting MacOSX & MorphOS2.7 on 1.5GHz G4 MacMini & Dual 1.42GHz G4 >>> PowerMac MDD, plus dual booting MacOSX & MorphOS3.0 beta on 15" & 17" >>> 1.67GHz G4 PowerBooks & dual booting MacOSX & Ubuntu PPC v10.10 on a Dual >>> 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac. >>> >>> --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group >>> for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on >>> Power Macs. >>> The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our >>> netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for >>> those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power >>> Macs. >>> The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our >>> netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for >> those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power >> Macs. >> The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our >> netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. 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