On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Dan Stobbs <[email protected] > wrote:

Here's the Wikipaedia definition of both terms. "Jury rigging refers to makeshift repairs or temporary contrivances, made with only the tools and materials that happen to be on hand. Originally a nautical term, on sailing ships a jury rig is a replacement mast and yards improvised in case of damage or loss of the original mast. When more permanence is meant by the term, such a build may be referred to as jerry rigged."

On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

Got it! "Jury Rigged" == "Duct Tape"
        "Jerry Rigged" ==" Duct tape AND a hose clamp"

I'm not sure I see the logic of these? I never heard the nautical reference at all, and don't see its etymology?

I thought "jury rigged" was like a court jury that was rigged for an acquittal of the defendant. This is something risky because it's illegal and if it goes wrong it blows up in your face. This is a strategy of last resort that has high risk of failure, BUT if you get away with it, you walk away free (meaning fixed at no cost to you). I'd think this would be something like using JB Weld to repair a hole on the radiator of an old vehicle you rarely drive. If it works, it saves the cost of a new radiator that might cost more than the whole vehicle is worth, and could work for years & years; but if it fails, it might leave you stranded inside a tunnel with bad air, 70mph traffic, and possible death.

I thought "jerry-rigged" was a derogatory term from WWII referring to Germans as Jerrys? This would be in line with the even more derogatory racist term 'xxxxxx-rigged' that I won't mention here. I know that during periods of war the first thing the military does is try to dehumanize the enemy by inventing slang derogatory terminology so that the young soldiers don't think of the enemy as human beings. Below is a fairly comprehensive list these derogatory terms:

<http://gyral.blackshell.com/names.html>

I'm not British, and WWII isn't my generation, so I'm not certain how "jerry-rigged" would make logical sense? German's are known for being anal and over-engineering almost everything, so perhaps jerry-rigged would logically be a backhanded compliment for something that's unnecessarily over-fixed when a quick temporary fix would suffice? For example, a broken wooden dowel rod on a cheap disposable plastic 4th- of-July flag that you fix with a metal pipe duct-taped with three layers to the snapped rod. An overfix that wastes resources, something that only an idiot "Jerry" would do.

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