Feature Requests item #1686444, was opened at 2007-03-22 20:13
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Category: jabber
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Status: Open
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Priority: 5
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Submitted By: Daniele (mastro-daniele)
Assigned to: Mark Doliner (thekingant)
Summary: MeeboMe Widget Support

Initial Comment:
Meebo use the Jabber protocol
it is possibile to use Meebo with gaim

what it's not possible is to use it with MeeboMe Widget

this widget is a peace of embedded Flash player that you can add in your blog 
or in your web site

who enter your site can chat with you without knowing your credential!

can choose a nick name and see your online status

with game you get a request of authorization every times somebody refresh or 
change position in your web page

plus the nick name choose by the guest user is not taken..
this mean that when the page get reloaded the user name change too.. and you 
didn't know who are you talking with

if you log into the meebo web site all work good..

there's no chat client around, but the meebo web page, capable of doing this

thanks

this is the web page: www.meebo.com

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>Comment By: Mark Doliner (thekingant)
Date: 2007-03-23 15:19

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meebo's implementation of XEP-0172

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Comment By: Daniele (mastro-daniele)
Date: 2007-03-23 14:17

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you did "it" what? meebo? XEP-0172 specification? :)

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Comment By: Mark Doliner (thekingant)
Date: 2007-03-23 14:09

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I found that that meebo is using XEP-0172 because I'm the one who did it
:-)

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Comment By: Daniele (mastro-daniele)
Date: 2007-03-23 13:39

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that's a wonderful news! the plugin it's perfect i think :)

how you found out that meebo is using XEP-0172 specification?
anyway.. since this is a Jabber Specification it will be implemented :)
very good!

thank you for listening me..

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Comment By: Mark Doliner (thekingant)
Date: 2007-03-23 11:25

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For the nickname meebo is using parts of XEP-0172, the user nickname spec.
 Specifically the non-pubsub method given in example 18.  We should add
support for that in Gaim, since the spec is a draft now, and it's pretty
awesome.

It probably makes sense to do the auto-authorize stuff in a plugin.

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Comment By: Daniele (mastro-daniele)
Date: 2007-03-23 04:36

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yes thekingant

and would be wonderful if you found some way to bring the nickname instead
of the random guest nick too

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Comment By: Mark Doliner (thekingant)
Date: 2007-03-23 01:37

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You guys are basically right.  Each time someone loads a widget they're
logged in with a new, random, guest Jabber account.  This new account adds
your @meebo.org account to its roster.  So Gaim would need to auto-approve
all authorization requests coming from guest#.meebo.org.

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Comment By: Daniele (mastro-daniele)
Date: 2007-03-22 21:24

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hum...

how is the Tools menu -> Privacy supposed to behave?

cause when i select "allow all to contact me" still it ask for
authorization

if i choose: allow only guys on my contact list... it still ask for
authorization

may be this setting doesn't work with jabber protocol?

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Comment By: Daniele (mastro-daniele)
Date: 2007-03-22 21:16

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just a thing..

the wildcard would be useful like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Comment By: Daniele (mastro-daniele)
Date: 2007-03-22 21:14

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i've done what you ask...
it still ask for authorization

this are some of the random nick name i get:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

as bleeter sugger the wildcard are a good way of resolve the problem of
the authorization

but i have no idea on how the "nickname" work, sorry...

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Comment By: Daniele (mastro-daniele)
Date: 2007-03-22 21:08

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sorry
may be my english it's not very good
i try to do what you say and come back with the result...

anyway there is still the problem of the multiple random nick name that
change every times the widget get reloaded

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

like this one..

i think the meebo widget create some random guest account every times the
widget get loaded..
and then use some strange behavior to assign those different random nick
to the choosen-by-user nick name..

in gaim we have multiple chat opening.. and you can't know if you are
talking with the same person as before and so on...

i came back in a few minutes with the reply to your question

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Comment By: Peter Lawler (bleeter)
Date: 2007-03-22 21:06

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>From what I understand, the privacy suggestion made by rlaager is about
the only option at this point in time. A better option would be an
enchanced privacy API, which would allow wildcards of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of
course, this is completely thought of without testing. Anyways, as such, I
suspect this will be a duplicate of any 'RFE: Privacy' request.

I suspect what's happening is that the jabber details for IM are seperate
from meebo's blog section and that any meebo member can comment on a blog,
but the "standard" buddy rules apply to the gaim client. Thus, gaim is hit
by authorisation requests from this 'anonymous but trusted' source every
time a web-authenticated meebo user refreshes a page.

Of course, this is pure guesswork. I'm sure Mark can enlighten us all :)

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Comment By: Richard Laager (rlaager)
Date: 2007-03-22 20:52

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Okay, I think I understand it now... The problem is that you get a million
authentication requests, right? What happens if you go to the Tools menu,
then to Privacy, then you select your meebo.org account there, choose
"Allow all users to contact me", and then click OK? Does that stop the
authentication requests?

Mark, can you shed any light on what's happening here (from Gaim's point
of view, not Meebo's of course)?

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Comment By: Daniele (mastro-daniele)
Date: 2007-03-22 20:43

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this is an example of the generated from widget nickname:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and change everytimes the user reload the widget

i found it around the web

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Comment By: Daniele (mastro-daniele)
Date: 2007-03-22 20:41

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why invalide?

it's a feature request!
watch here:
http://blog.loudervoice.com/2007/02/27/meebome-widget-gaim-killer-app/

and here
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~beckvall/dan/MyFiles/MyFilesPage.html

if someone take care of this for windows this mean there are people like
me that want this feature

if you don't know what i'm talking about go to the meebo site and try..
create an embedded meebo and use it with the meebo web page
then try with gaim..

would like to see a better reason to have this as "invalid"
not: "i don't understand how this has anything to do with Gaim"
this has obviously something that would be useful with Gaim

i reopen it..
i hope you think again

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Comment By: Richard Laager (rlaager)
Date: 2007-03-22 20:24

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I don't understand how what you're talking about has anything to do with
Gaim...

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