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Hi Peter,

What do you know, it has! I should've searched for those emails first.
Nevertheless, I'd like to see this implemented, and may take it on since
there's obviously a need for it.

You raise a good point, I am not familiar with semantic web/linked data
enough to know the best markup for citations. I come from a LaTeX
background, so embedding citations as close to BibTeX as possible seemed
like the simplest/most obvious solution to me.

I'm open to suggestions if anyone would like to bring them to the table!

James,

Good to know about BibTeXML, thanks for that link. If people will
generally support something along those lines, that'll come in handy.



Cheers,
Eric


On 05/27/2014 12:09 PM, Peter Cock wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> 
> I was sure there was a Trello card for this, but I can't find it right now...
> 
> I've pushed this idea on the mailing list before, and in person at
> the Galaxy Community Conference too. See also these threads:
> 
> http://lists.bx.psu.edu/pipermail/galaxy-dev/2011-December/007873.html
> 
> http://lists.bx.psu.edu/pipermail/galaxy-dev/2012-June/010178.html
> 
> Are you familiar enough with the area of semantic web/linked
> data to know what would be the best XML based markup to
> use for embedding the citations?
> 
> i.e. We should not reinvent the wheel here ;)
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 5:54 PM, James Taylor <ja...@jamestaylor.org> wrote:
>> Eric, I'm very much in favor of this feature, and particularly the
>> idea of generating a list of citations from a history or workflow. I
>> imagine the only thing to quibble about will be the syntax. There are
>> already some efforts to represent bibtex in xml (e.g.
>> https://github.com/Zearin/BibTeXML), however they have always struck
>> me as overly verbose.
>>
>> -- jt
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Eric Rasche <rasche.e...@yandex.ru> wrote:
> I'd want to open up discussion on a feature I'd like to see. I'll try
> and implement it if I can find time this summer. I didn't see a trello
> card for anything like this yet, but please feel free to direct me there
> if I missed it.
> 
> 
> I'd like to see citations as a part of every tool.
> 
> This would happen in the form of a <citation> block in the XML, which
> would contain sub-elements with text. These sub-elements could be based
> off of BibTeX, since they have existing specs for citing things:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BibTeX
> 
> These citations would then be accessible in the HTML generated tool
> pages, or via a View/Download button somewhere on the tool page. By
> storing as an XML tree, we could render these citations as BibTeX
> entries for the LaTeX users, and I believe there are ways to convert
> BibTeX to EndNote XML and so on.
> 
> This could be extended for use in workflows so that when you run
> workflows, somehow a list of citations for all tools used could be
> generated.
> 
> Anyone have thoughts or opinions on this?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Using the example bibtex entry from the wikipedia page:
> 
> @Book{abramowitz+stegun,
>  author    = "Milton {Abramowitz} and Irene A. {Stegun}",
>  title     = "Handbook of Mathematical Functions with
>               Formulas, Graphs, and Mathematical Tables",
>  publisher = "Dover",
>  year      =  1964,
>  address   = "New York",
>  edition   = "ninth Dover printing, tenth GPO printing"
> }
> 
> I imagine it'd look like the following in a real-life tool:
> 
> <tool>
>   ...
>   <citation type="book">
>     <author>Milton Abramowitz and Irene A. Stegun"</author>
>     <title>Handbook of Mathematical Functions with Formulas, Graphs, and
> Mathematical Tables</title>
>     <publisher>Dover</publisher>
>     <year>1964</year>
>     <address>New York</address>
>     <edition>ninth Dover printing, tenth GPO printing</edition>
>   </citation>
> </tool>
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Eric
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