we've had kids on here for years, none of them have sunk as low as that to my knowledge. kid or not, there's no excuse for cheating, lying ... well you get the idea! and the quotes system crash, seems just a tad too convenient for my liking! we don't need people like ivan and his behaviour in the gamers community. i hope for his sake he learns a lesson. has anyone actually approached him and told him of the suspicions re copying liams game? Kevin - owner of the audyssey gamers discussion list at: www.audyssey.org contact me via email/msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blaytont Forgery regarding Ivan
> Ivan originally recorded that so called demo for me when he asked me to > tell the blind gamers list here that his game was for real. > I wasn't going to put my reputation on the line for him without solid > proof that he was developing a game, but I was willing to help him out if I > could, if he were sincerely developing a game. > I too took it into sound forge and restored it to full speed. > I haven't played super liam, but I figured he had just ripped off another > game and recorded it as his own. > When I asked him to send me his code section for the keyboard input, he > went mysteriously silent until this afternoon. > I received an email from him telling me his system had crashed completely > and he had lost everything. > The message he sent me was a response to a message I had sent him earlier > yesterday, proving that he was lying once again about the crash. > Like Thomas and Raul, I have been very patient with Ivan, trying to help > him out and offer a little guidance in proper behavior, something he is > obviously sorely lacking at home. > No more. I am removing Ivan from the rail racer list and refunding his > money for the beta. I want nothing more to do with him. > This is sad, as he is really just a kid, but he is old enough to learn > better, and simply refuses to do so. > I hope he grows up someday, but I for one am done with him. > Take care all. > Che > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 12:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blaytont Forgery regarding Ivan > > > > Hi, Raul and Liam. > > When I heard the so-called trailor I was also quite offended at how it > > was done. There is no doubt trying to steel someone elses work and make > > it his own was bad enough. What is worse is I for one have been quite > > open with folks and offer my advice, pointers, and have helped get > > agdev-newbies started so we can add new developers to our comunity. > > Instead Ivan chose not to learn to be a programmer, but attempted to > > steel others work, and clame it was all his own doing. > > Even more offensive was that Ivan had said he was going to give his game > > away for free at one time. If it would have really happened he not only > > would be modifying Liam's game but would be redistributing licensed > > copies of Super Liam for free which is about as bad as the Monkey > > Business business we had on blind-gamers quite some time ago. > > To be frank about it I don't understand why some people like Ivan have > > to act the way they do. As a moderator I \gave him so many breaks, coach > > talks, etc to change his ways, etc and instead Ivan became inflamitory, > > continued to lie to this comunity about his game, and apparently had no > > respect for the list guidelines. > > Well, I am getting down from my soapbox, and won't be discussing this > > topic again as far as I know. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gamers mailing list .. [email protected] > > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > > visit > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > > any subscription changes via the web. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gamers mailing list .. [email protected] > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 04/07/2006 > > _______________________________________________ Gamers mailing list .. [email protected] To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
