usually with an operating system, I wait a year and a half to upgrade. Knowing with the way a lot of people work, they'll do the same thing. vs 6 is ancient technology. I don't blame microsoft for not supporting it in Vista.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista? > Hi Ari, > The entire problem with Vista for us is that Microsoft is being very > silent and tight jawed about Vista except what they want you to know. > I've only managed to find out tidbits through talking to other devs who > have tested it, and stuff I read between the lines on the Vista Platform > SDK. > However.... The message I have recieved through the info I have heard > and read so far is the message they have quietly implied to us is the > adapt or die attitude. In some ways I can't blame them as they have > been running the same old libraries for ages, and now the new platform > SDK is completely new and different. That is why many programs and even > games or going to die when Vista comes out. Naturally, Vista games will > not be backward compatible unless the company is using the .NET > Framework which is backward compatible to any operating system that uses > the same framework, and in the case of games DirectX as well. > I do know they will be releasing .NET Framework 3.0 for Win 2000, XP, > and Windows Server 2003, sometime next year so those operating systems > will have some compatibility with Vista for sure. 95, 98, ME apps will > be dead. > As for DirectX 10 I believe it will bre backward compatible with DirectX > 9.0 managed. I specified managed which is he .NET version of the DirectX > libraries. 9.0 had 8.0 compatibility libs for say VB 6, Visual C++ 6, > etc, but Microsoft has discontinued support for Visual Studio 98, which > is 6.0, and you can expect anything written in that era of languages are > going to die a quick death if they don't adapt soon. I saw this coming > in 20904 and started off with .NET to get ahead of the screaming that > will accompany the old line VB 6 devs if Vista doesn't support those apps. > The good news our accessible game developers are slowly but surely > moving to C#.NET or VB.NET. I know Justin knows VB.NET, Che knows > VB.NET, Josh I think went to C#.NET, I believe it was Liam playing with > VB.NET a little bit, I am using C#.NET for all my titles, and that is a > good sign that developers are in the process of making the switch. > However, the status of our older titles will have to wait for Vista to > come out. Perhaps it is not as bad as we think it will be, and it could > be worse than we think. I know most of the games for accessible games > are VB 6 like the Kitchens Inc games, the GMA Game Engine, Lone Wolf, > Trek 2000, Liam's Games, and plenty of others, and if Vista doesn't have > proper support for those older apps those games are going to crash, and > the accessible gaming market will come to a screaming hault in that event. > Either way, Vista is probably going to be a highly expensive upgrade for > the accessibility community. We will have to upgrade to the latest > screen readers as I have been told for a fact that anything, I do mean > anything older, than the latest Jaws or Window eyes will not run on > Vista and work properly. That is tough as I know people still running > Jaws 4.5 and 5.0 on XP, Window Eyes 4.2, and so on and they will be > paying through the nose to fully upgrade screen readers to run with the > thing. > If, I mean if, many accessible games don't work, need to be rewitten, I > can imagine upgrade or repurchase prices would be in order for the work > involved in porting them to the new operating system which would have to > be done sooner or later to maintain some kind of value. Else will end up > like the old dos games fforgotten and unplayed. > I can see several other programs requiring updates, and the entire > upgrade becoming an investment. > However, XP still has allot of life in it and even though Vista will hit > the seen next year there is nothing wrong in holding to XP for a couple > of more years buying the necessary upgrades one at a time, and of course > wait for the accessible games to test and figure out if the products > will work on Vista or not. All of this is pretty much the hypathetical > long view on my part. > > > _______________________________________________ > Gamers mailing list .. [email protected] > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. _______________________________________________ Gamers mailing list .. [email protected] To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
