Well I don't know how much I spent on games, I have most of liam's games, all of jims,and gma games games. I spent loads of cash on all these, I also have all the bsc arcade packs. I don't really want to spend heaps to upgrade everything unless I have to. At 09:23 AM 11/28/2006, Thomas Ward wrote: >Hi Ari, >The entire problem with Vista for us is that Microsoft is being very >silent and tight jawed about Vista except what they want you to know. >I've only managed to find out tidbits through talking to other devs who >have tested it, and stuff I read between the lines on the Vista Platform >SDK. >However.... The message I have recieved through the info I have heard >and read so far is the message they have quietly implied to us is the >adapt or die attitude. In some ways I can't blame them as they have >been running the same old libraries for ages, and now the new platform >SDK is completely new and different. That is why many programs and even >games or going to die when Vista comes out. Naturally, Vista games will >not be backward compatible unless the company is using the .NET >Framework which is backward compatible to any operating system that uses >the same framework, and in the case of games DirectX as well. >I do know they will be releasing .NET Framework 3.0 for Win 2000, XP, >and Windows Server 2003, sometime next year so those operating systems >will have some compatibility with Vista for sure. 95, 98, ME apps will >be dead. >As for DirectX 10 I believe it will bre backward compatible with DirectX >9.0 managed. I specified managed which is he .NET version of the DirectX >libraries. 9.0 had 8.0 compatibility libs for say VB 6, Visual C++ 6, >etc, but Microsoft has discontinued support for Visual Studio 98, which >is 6.0, and you can expect anything written in that era of languages are >going to die a quick death if they don't adapt soon. I saw this coming >in 20904 and started off with .NET to get ahead of the screaming that >will accompany the old line VB 6 devs if Vista doesn't support those apps. >The good news our accessible game developers are slowly but surely >moving to C#.NET or VB.NET. I know Justin knows VB.NET, Che knows >VB.NET, Josh I think went to C#.NET, I believe it was Liam playing with >VB.NET a little bit, I am using C#.NET for all my titles, and that is a >good sign that developers are in the process of making the switch. >However, the status of our older titles will have to wait for Vista to >come out. Perhaps it is not as bad as we think it will be, and it could >be worse than we think. I know most of the games for accessible games >are VB 6 like the Kitchens Inc games, the GMA Game Engine, Lone Wolf, >Trek 2000, Liam's Games, and plenty of others, and if Vista doesn't have >proper support for those older apps those games are going to crash, and >the accessible gaming market will come to a screaming hault in that event. >Either way, Vista is probably going to be a highly expensive upgrade for >the accessibility community. We will have to upgrade to the latest >screen readers as I have been told for a fact that anything, I do mean >anything older, than the latest Jaws or Window eyes will not run on >Vista and work properly. That is tough as I know people still running >Jaws 4.5 and 5.0 on XP, Window Eyes 4.2, and so on and they will be >paying through the nose to fully upgrade screen readers to run with the >thing. >If, I mean if, many accessible games don't work, need to be rewitten, I >can imagine upgrade or repurchase prices would be in order for the work >involved in porting them to the new operating system which would have to >be done sooner or later to maintain some kind of value. Else will end up >like the old dos games fforgotten and unplayed. >I can see several other programs requiring updates, and the entire >upgrade becoming an investment. >However, XP still has allot of life in it and even though Vista will hit >the seen next year there is nothing wrong in holding to XP for a couple >of more years buying the necessary upgrades one at a time, and of course >wait for the accessible games to test and figure out if the products >will work on Vista or not. All of this is pretty much the hypathetical >long view on my part. > > >_______________________________________________ >Gamers mailing list .. [email protected] >To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >any subscription changes via the web.
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