Dude, the fact that it's taken 6 months to make it here at all might tell you something. Think about it. Nuff said.
On 4/22/13, shaun everiss <[email protected]> wrote: > yeah anything is better than nothing scot you are right on that point. > its just that this small step in the right direction gets to another > step of the same. > And to be frank I am actually getting bored with these steps. > the fact that it took 6 months to get here and before that I never > knew about it means in reality that it was never that big. > We may be moving along vary slowly but to what. > Another article, another servey, another descussion on what a good > idea it will be. > if you call that progress then thats fine. > However I have been playing with games since 1993. > and windows games for the last 10 years. > I am due to upgrade to another box, this current one will be still > used for games. > I want some meat!!! > I am tired of all these research studdies, and things, I want > something to play. > if I were a programmer who knows but I am not nore know where to start. > I tried to review tutorials for various languages and got totally > over run with stuff. > not sure what else to do, and doubt another article would help unless > ofcause we could get it out of the net maybe to where it would make > some difference if it would. > so yeah we are making progress like we have been for ages and will > continue to do so. > As long as you view progress to achieve nothing more than progress > through towards achieving an ever looping progress that is fine. > I may be wrong and frankly I hope I am. > > At 09:02 AM 4/23/2013, you wrote: >>As tempting as it is to reply to this point by point, I really don't >>want to get into the rant thread that will no doubt ensue. All I'll >>say is that it's a case in point for Cara's thoughts on approaching >>the future armed to the teeth with positivity, and that something, how >>ever small, is always gonna be better than nothing for someone, >>somewhere. >> >>Wow. Just wow. >> >> >>On 4/22/13, shaun everiss <[email protected]> wrote: >> > hi scot. >> > an interesting paper. >> > Ofcause if we are being noticed by the big companies especially >> > microsoft which is one of those that are huge there is hope. >> > However there is a difference from putting out yet another studdy, to >> > actually doing anything about it. >> > What for example is basic accessability? >> > basic could be defined that you can open, read the title, close the >> > program, and quit it. >> > it could also mean things like stereo sound for objects, maybe simple >> > target beeps, etc. >> > it doesn't mean though that menus are accessable or anything. >> > and while there is the ability even in graphical lanugages like unity >> > xna, etc to use speech on a wider scale bar the sports games basic >> > accessability is narator, ms magnifier, ms accessability frontends >> > in options on windows, text on screen, etc etc. >> > its not really accessability, its just crap. >> > I am not convinced that with the way ms did all its narators and its >> > so called accessability that it will even remotely help us. >> > unless we use windows xp for ever with pirated cracked keys and ms >> > office xp with the same keys. >> > all the new ribbons and then there is win9, just about everyone I >> > talk to in the industry down to my screen reader dealer says that >> > basically it will work but in reality win8 is crap and unstable and >> > stupid right now and to stay with 7 or even better xp. >> > with xp dieing 7 is probably the best we will get. >> > so when ms talk about accessability I am not sure if I should beleve >> > them or not. >> > not to mention we just get this now on a list for the little blind >> > people hidden away on some place on the net. >> > the fact is if this was really big news it would have appeared >> > offline on the news or in stores. >> > I don't mean to be critical but with the track record on ms >> > accessability and how they have mangled office and windows to make it >> > harder for us to use meaning we have to fiddle round is just not >> > sitting with me at all. >> > worse that paper is at least 6 months old. >> > 6 months is enough time for at least some small games to have come out. >> > no one cares about the poor blind. >> > this paper means nothing, or maybe its too soon. >> > My issue is that everyone is happy to concider things like this a >> > good idea, serveys, papers, the lot. >> > Vary few actually do anything. >> > with the acception of a few small developers on the audiogames forum. >> > no companies online or offline stores have even managed to get close. >> > maybe if one of the big gaming companies like nentendo or soni did >> > simular papers I'd actually hope this would work but no such luck. >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [email protected]. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >>please send E-mail to [email protected]. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [email protected]. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to [email protected]. > --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. 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