hi, exactly. and to the person, i forget who now, said about security programs and such doing so, yes, but generally its not locked down to a particular machine, based on the hardware thats in that machine! .... and generally, such hardware registration systems can be deregistered from one machine, and applied to a different one. the hardware system that we seems to be using here for the most part, appears to have a major problem. that is, if you upgrade any part of your computer, the program will no longer be registered for your machine! lets say i upgrade my netbooks ram from 1 gb, to 2 gb of ram after registering such a program. i would then have to buy the game again!
admitedly, some don't work this way. but too many of them do. and as you say tom. it never stopped pirates. just hampered them .... for a week or two. lol. personally, there are some better ideas for registering a program. for example. lets say you use an internet registration mechonism. lets say that when you registered, you register with an email address, your name, and a password. you could then put a form in the registration for the program, that would send your user name, and password off to the server. it could then look that up, and then send a confirmation code to your registered email. that way, you go get that code from your personal email address, and nobody can hack that. as you would have to have access to that email address. what i'm saying is, there are far more effective ways of locking people out of cracking, then a hardware registration. yes, it require a server to be run. yes, it requires internet registration. so, people are going to say, oh, but what if i don't have access to internet to register it. well, i'm sorry to say this, but ... deal with it. there are a lot of games out there, in the mainstream gaming world, that require internet registration. and if you don't have access to internet. too bad. find access, long enough to register. as for the idea of this pack, i personally think he has given people long enough. the only area in which he perhaps could have done a little better, is finding a way to transmit the info out to everybody on this list, and perhaps others, as soon as he made the pack purchasable. but, thats his choice. and i have to admit. yes, its sad to see his stuff going. and i will probably atempt to buy the pack, simply so i have them, even if i don't use the games a lot. but never the less, I think, if the audio gaming industry is worth anything, then they should be able to come up with replacements, if not in fact better games. simply because, well, this is now, that was then. the games were good. yes. but with todays abilities, and the amount of sounds and music out there, i think that it would be easy enough to make replacements. and agreed, tom. the conversion rates can be a killer, in a lot of cases. i mean, there was one time, where if i wanted a program, from england, and the dev there was charging say, 15 pound, it would have hert for me to buy it. it would have been nearly 50 dollars australian! ... but now, its not too bad. so yes. i can see where conversion rates can kill a person's ability to buy the programs. regards: Dallas On 24/04/2013, Thomas Ward <thomasward1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Dark and all, > > not only that, but studies show that the hardware ID key systems > haven't done anything to prevent or slow down piracy. Microsoft found > this out the hard way in 2007 when they released Windows Vista with a > new hardware key system, and within two weeks or so there were cracks > all over the web that simply went around Microsoft's brand spanking > new key system. Point being the only people Microsoft punished were > the honest paying customers like myself who paid for Windows Vista > about a week or so after it came out. It didn't slow down or stop the > software pirates. So what good did it do switching to a hardware key > system? > > The reason hardware keys don't work is because it often fails to > address the underlying reasons for piracy in the first place. There > are a number of reasons why people pirate software and they can be > addressed if a developer recognizes why his/her software is being > pirated. > > One, is the issue of cost. I think we all understand the fact that do > to exchange rates and so forth that what may be reasonable to one > customer is an absurd amount of money to another. For a Canadian, > American, or British customer $30 USD is probably pretty reasonable > amount of money. However, I know that there are countries where that > is hundreds perhaps thousands in their currency do to exchange rates. > Therefore the only way they can hope to get the game is to steel it, > or if the developer will offer a special deal to purchase the game at > a lower price. Bottom line, if someone can't afford it they won't buy > it. > > Then, there is the issue of availability. Do to trade embargos and > other things like that a developer can't sell software to other > countries even though he or she may personally like to. There are > countries such as Iran that the United States government has placed > trade embargos on and it would be unlawful for a U.S. company to sell > products and services to an Iranian person. Plus services like Paypal > won't accept payments from countries under a trade embargo so a > customer in such a situation really has little choice but to pirate > the software weather they want to or not. > > Finally, there is the person who has the money but refuses to pay for > the software but would rather pirate it instead. This is sadly more > common than we would like, but there is nothing we can do about it. > Someone who is going to steel software is going to do it no matter > what. > > The point I want to make here is that all too often software > developers look at piracy as losing money. That they count every act > of piracy as a financial loss. The reality is that in a lot of cases > it isn't a financial loss because either the person didn't have the > money, they live in a country under a trade embargo, or are a > dishonest git to begin with the developer wasn't going to be able to > sell the software to him/her anyway. Its no great loss because honest > customers and those who can pay will pay. The only thing a security > system needs to do is keep an honest customer honest and there are > proven methods to do that without resorting to draconian hardware key > systems etc. > > Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. 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