it is not a matter of sounds.  he has taken my executible and changed the 
sounds to fit his concept.  that is wrong and trama is no excuse.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Dragon Warrior


> Hay guys please understand ivan's situation. The boy lost his dad and his
> brother. He is  really a trauma case. He's not himself. John, his mentor
> assured me that ivan isn't using liam's sounds anymore. Ivan begged so 
> many
> times to  get back onto  this list.
> It happened all like this: one day I received out of the blue a message 
> from
> ivan threatening me that he will ban me from  his list. He accused me of
> jumping down him. So I wrote him a straight forward message back telling 
> him
> that he is  the guilty one, he stole another dev's ideas AND NOW HE WANTS 
> TO
> BAN ME FROM his list while  I'm innoscent. I told him that in  south 
> Africa
> kids who did something like that were either prisoned or  spanked. john 
> and
> ivan begged me to please understand that he is going through a lot of
> trauma.
> Ivan has begged me so many times to ask Thomas to put him back on list. If
> one goes through trauma you are not yourself and you do things that you
> won't do if you were not in trauma. Ivan noticed his mistake and once 
> again
> john assured me he left liam's sounds.
> So this is the contact I had with ivan and what I can tell you guys .
> Please give him another chance. Although it might sound like liams's 
> sounds,
> john  assured me it isn't.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Thomas Ward
> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:19 AM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Dragon Warrior
>
> Hi Josh and all,
> I am not certain that Dragon Warrior is an actual game. Previously, on
> this list Ivan, the aledged developer of Dragon Warrior, took Liam's
> game Super Liam, modified the sounds, and attempted to pass it off as
> Dragon Warrior. It was one of the factors that wound up getting him
> banned from this forem.
> According to the recent podcast it still seams like Super Liam with a
> bunch of new sounds added, and a few other nifty tricks to throw you
> off. So bottom line I really don't trust Ivan or his word very much.
> One other thing is in the last Audyssey magazine I remember someone else
> was supposed to be designing Dragon Warrior, and that person and company
> was not Ivan. My guess is Ivan took the name of an unfinished game and
> slapped it on his aledged creation.
> Sorry folks to be so negative about this, but I just can't trust him
> much after his last endever on this forem.
> Smile.
>
>
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