Hi Theresa,

I think at least some of the complaints about the VO keys come from people who 
are playing with OS X on non-Apple hardware, where the control and alt keys are 
not side-by-side like the control and option keys are. Of course, this can be 
fixed for PC keyboards in Mac System Preferences, where you can easily reassign 
those keys, but why bother looking for a solution when you can complain on an 
email list. *grin*

On Dec 14, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote:

> i can use one finger to press VO and shift. i don’t have large fingers, but 
> I’m used to playing musical instruments, and my fingers are pretty long.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
> Feynman
> 
> On Dec 14, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, numpad commander is your friend on OS X. I can manage just fine either 
>> way--not sure what's so hard about the VO keys, myself--but the numpad 
>> commander definitely makes the Apple wired keyboard worthwhile for me.  I 
>> gave up the Bluetooth keyboard and trackpad in favour of just the wired 
>> keyboard.  (A standard keyboard works but may or may not have enough keys to 
>> be comprehensive, for example FN and a dedicated eject key, though you can 
>> sort of work around that.  You will not get an Insert key for use in Windows 
>> however.  Unfortunately some USB and virtual keyboards do not allow you to 
>> sustain a keypress, so check it before committing to it, because there are 
>> quite a few cycle keys in OS X.)
>> 
>> Don't forget Control-Option lock, too (VO+semicolon).  That locks the VO 
>> keys, which behaves a bit more rationally than QuickNav, at the expense of 
>> needing to unlock when you're finished.
>> 
>> If you don't like the amount of interacting, remember that the tab key also 
>> works, and you have jump targets and hot spots to move you even more 
>> quickly.  You'll get used to it.  I surprise sighted people by installing 
>> software faster than they can on OS X using the famously keyboard-unfriendly 
>> OS X installer. :)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Sabahattin
>> 
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