tell you somethin', he emailed me too, asking to be a beta tester for a new
piece of software i was creating. i told him no way, he said he'd changed,
etc, etc, blah blah blah, i still said no. then, similarly, i got an email
from this john dude saying that ivan has changed from all that. he forgets
that i was actually on this list when he started bringing up his lies, and
when shaun actually told me that ivan and john was the same person, i was
surprised that he was a moderator. it was obvious he knew about it, so why
choose to be a moderator on a mailing list that posts news on nothing but
fakes, tricks, lies and copies?

regards,

damien




----- Original Message -----
From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:27 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Ivan's bologna


>   Ivan is a habitual liar, plain and simple.
>   He was briefly on the Rail Racer beta team, until I took him off the
list
> for being abusive and spamming the list repeatedly.
>   I gave him a lot of slack because of his age, and the obvious fact his
> parents did a horrible job instilling in him the fundamentals of being a
> decent human being.
>   He asked me to post to this list and try to get him reinstated, and tell
> people his Dragon Warrior game was a unique creation.  I told him I wanted
> proof of it before I would vouche for him, so he created and sent me a
sound
> file of him playing the game, resampled down by half to disguise his
obvious
> rip off of Super Liam.
>   When I told him he was full of it, and I no longer wanted anything to do
> with him because he had tried to deceive me and use my good name on this
> list for his own nefarious purposes, he started in with the my parents
just
> died in a car crash crap, even though I had received a payment for Rail
> Racer from his mother 2 weeks earlier.
>   Now, I notice he seemed to have lost his dad and brother.  That is a
real
> tragedy to lose your mom, your dad, then your dad and your brother in
> seperate incidents, what a heart wrencher.
>   Anyhow, after this, I just ignored him and he started sending me
messages
> as John, saying Ivan was a decent guy and blah blah blah.
>   This guy is nothing but a liar, I reccomend if you get any
correspondence
> from him to ignore it.
>   Sean Everest and Sky Taylor, you should seriously rethink your
association
> with this guy.  By having anything to do with him, much less defending his
> attempts to rip off Liam's hard work brings your judgement of character in
> question already.  You have nothing to gain by talking with this guy, and
> plenty of respect to lose.
>   Regarding Justin training Ivan, I know Justin, and I promise you he
> wouldn't mess with this bozo for more than 30 seconds.
>   My words about Ivan may sound harsh, but I gave him far more chances
than
> he deserved as well as offering him advice and telling him what he was
doing
> was going to ruin his reputation in the blind community, I spent a lot of
> time trying to help him out. Despite my efforts to help him and all the
time
> I spent on him if things had gone his way, he would have used me to
> perpetuate his lies on this list, with no consideration of what it would
do
> to my reputation here.
>   Any of you with contact with Ivan, feel free to forward this message to
> him and let him know he isn't fooling any non fools, and he might as well
> give it up, because if he attempts to release this game as his own, he is
> going to get in some serious trouble for a change.
>   The blind gaming community as a whole is a good and supportive bunch of
> people, and I am proud to be one of its members, but the cancer that is
Ivan
> needs to be extracted from our collective body.
>   Stay away.
>
>
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