yeah he is bad news. So yeah I'm not supporting him really. In fact I hardly pay any attention to him. At 08:51 a.m. 15/01/2007, you wrote: >tell you somethin', he emailed me too, asking to be a beta tester for a new >piece of software i was creating. i told him no way, he said he'd changed, >etc, etc, blah blah blah, i still said no. then, similarly, i got an email >from this john dude saying that ivan has changed from all that. he forgets >that i was actually on this list when he started bringing up his lies, and >when shaun actually told me that ivan and john was the same person, i was >surprised that he was a moderator. it was obvious he knew about it, so why >choose to be a moderator on a mailing list that posts news on nothing but >fakes, tricks, lies and copies? > >regards, > >damien > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:27 PM >Subject: [Audyssey] Ivan's bologna > > >> Ivan is a habitual liar, plain and simple. >> He was briefly on the Rail Racer beta team, until I took him off the >list >> for being abusive and spamming the list repeatedly. >> I gave him a lot of slack because of his age, and the obvious fact his >> parents did a horrible job instilling in him the fundamentals of being a >> decent human being. >> He asked me to post to this list and try to get him reinstated, and tell >> people his Dragon Warrior game was a unique creation. I told him I wanted >> proof of it before I would vouche for him, so he created and sent me a >sound >> file of him playing the game, resampled down by half to disguise his >obvious >> rip off of Super Liam. >> When I told him he was full of it, and I no longer wanted anything to do >> with him because he had tried to deceive me and use my good name on this >> list for his own nefarious purposes, he started in with the my parents >just >> died in a car crash crap, even though I had received a payment for Rail >> Racer from his mother 2 weeks earlier. >> Now, I notice he seemed to have lost his dad and brother. That is a >real >> tragedy to lose your mom, your dad, then your dad and your brother in >> seperate incidents, what a heart wrencher. >> Anyhow, after this, I just ignored him and he started sending me >messages >> as John, saying Ivan was a decent guy and blah blah blah. >> This guy is nothing but a liar, I reccomend if you get any >correspondence >> from him to ignore it. >> Sean Everest and Sky Taylor, you should seriously rethink your >association >> with this guy. By having anything to do with him, much less defending his >> attempts to rip off Liam's hard work brings your judgement of character in >> question already. You have nothing to gain by talking with this guy, and >> plenty of respect to lose. >> Regarding Justin training Ivan, I know Justin, and I promise you he >> wouldn't mess with this bozo for more than 30 seconds. >> My words about Ivan may sound harsh, but I gave him far more chances >than >> he deserved as well as offering him advice and telling him what he was >doing >> was going to ruin his reputation in the blind community, I spent a lot of >> time trying to help him out. Despite my efforts to help him and all the >time >> I spent on him if things had gone his way, he would have used me to >> perpetuate his lies on this list, with no consideration of what it would >do >> to my reputation here. >> Any of you with contact with Ivan, feel free to forward this message to >> him and let him know he isn't fooling any non fools, and he might as well >> give it up, because if he attempts to release this game as his own, he is >> going to get in some serious trouble for a change. >> The blind gaming community as a whole is a good and supportive bunch of >> people, and I am proud to be one of its members, but the cancer that is >Ivan >> needs to be extracted from our collective body. >> Stay away. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gamers mailing list .. [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Gamers mailing list .. [email protected] >To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >any subscription changes via the web.
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