Well charlse, law be buggered!this is again one of those categorical states
I think where you perhaps draw a strict distinction when in reality things
are more fluid, and to me putting an olympic athelete who trains for sevral
hours a day in the same category as someone who just goes to the gym once a
month is incorrect, and indeed a little insulting.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Rivard" <[email protected]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] amateur versus pro - Re: professional
wrestling-Re:The Psychology of FirstPerson Shooters
Regardless of the skill of the person, that is the legal distinction.
Professionals get paid, amateurs do not.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "dark" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] amateur versus pro - Re: professional
wrestling -Re:The Psychology of FirstPerson Shooters
I don't know what the size of a 50 cent peace is exactly, but as my
brother is n archer himself I do know some feats in the olympics by
archers are quite astounding.
To be honest with sports, and to an extent with music simply saying a
person is a professional when they get paid doesn't work for me, since to
me if a person is a professional, even if they don't get paid it implies
the time, and effort they put into a thing and the level at which they do
it.
I have met fantastic musicians, who don't actually make money from music
simply because it's damnably difficult to make a living that way, but
perform on a regular basis, often doing performance where the proceeds
go to for charity, indeed I've done such things myself.
That's why I question the term "ameter wrestling" when used of an olympic
wrestler.
Indeed if you lined up the olympic wrestling gold medel winner beside
a star from wwe roar or smackdown and asked me who I considdered the more
serious and professional wrestler, I know who I'd say, (at least in most
cases, given that some of the stars of show wrestling can do some pretty
impressive things).
Beware the grue!
Dark.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Rivard" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] amateur versus pro - Re: professional wrestling -
Re:The Psychology of FirstPerson Shooters
The difference between pro and amateur is that the amateur does not get
paid any money for participating and winning. Olympic athletes are
every bit as skilled as professionals, but they don't receive money for
their endeavors. I have seen Olympic archers shooting at a 48-inch
diameter target that has a bull's eye that is about the size of a soda
can't top from a distance of 90 meters, which is roughly 100 yards.
This was outdoors, so they also had to contend with the wind. Indoors,
they shoot at a distance of 18 meters, or about 20 yards, at a target
that is about a foot in diameter with a bull's eye that is roughly the
size of a $0.50 piece. They have beaten professionals.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of
FirstPerson Shooters
Hi Dark,
I definitely agree. I think show wrestling and competitive wrestling
is more suited than pro wrestling and amateur wrestling which doesn't
really make sense given that some amateur wrestlers are pro athletes
who compete in the Olympics and other major competitions like that.
On 12/20/13, dark <[email protected]> wrote:
I agree Jacob, though it seems a shame to describe something which is
done
at the olympic level, where people spend thousands of hours training
and
competing as "ameter" after all you'd not say someone who cycles or
runs
or swims in the olympics as an ameter in that sport.
Myself, I think show wrestiling vs competitive wrestling is a
reasonable
distinction, much as you would describe an actor who has learn some
flamboient fencing techniques to use in the theatre as a show fencer
compared to anyone who actually competes in the sport.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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