Hi Charlse.

I disagree with you that anyone already with a computer and access to a search engine would discover audio games, sinse many blind people are given a computer and told "this is for work" and not much else.

Up until I saw the article I mentioned in the braile circular in 2003, the idea that you could play games on a computer just plane hadn't occurred to me. About the most fun I'd had was using ms word to make character sheets for D&D tabletop games, and that was still essentially word processing, I assumed computer games were just on consoles and it would never have even occurred to me that a game with sound could be fun even if one did exist.

If your a blind person and presented with a computer and told "this is for work" it won't occur to many to experiment outside of that, which will also affect their computer skills quite badly.

The case is even worse on ap store related systems sinse you will get a hell of a lot of results to inaccessible games even if it occurs to you to search for them.

However, sinse such a leaflet needs to be written on computer anyway, having an electronic copy is hardly going to be an issue, it's getting one done in braille and possibly large print and then the physical distribution of such that will be the problem.

All the best,

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If you can use screen magnification software on your PC, I would think that you can also play graphically oriented games, and so would not fall into the market this project is aimed at.

If you are not braille literate due to a lack of its importance in your life, and you rely on your audio speech technology, you can use a search engine or Email, and are not a member of the target audience, either.

That leaves those who get their information through the use of braille, and who are not aware of the existence of computer games designed for blind people. They may not even have a computer, and the gaming might be what gets them interested. The braille readers who may be cut off from the computer literate should be the focus.

Maybe other methods of pamphlet distribution can be available at conventions or other gathering events where there will be a lot of blind and visually impaired people, but I think that braille should be the main media format.

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Hi Charles,

Interesting you brought the subject up of preference for braille over
electronic formats because it is one I think directly needs addressed.
Main reason I feel it needs to be addressed is we have something of a
generational gap here in this country and perhaps around the world.

There are undoubtedly older blind people who grew up on braille, were
taught to use it for anything and everything, and have a personal
preference for braille materials when and where possible. Now, we have
many younger blind people, particularly millennials, who favor
technology over braille. Some will outright state braille is no longer
relevant, and have abysmal to little braille literacy because they
spend their day using their iPhone, iPad, PC or some other gadget
which has replaced the use of braille in his or her life.

In short, if someone were to go move forward with this informational
campaign it might be better to offer more than one method of
distribution or format. I can clearly see there are valid arguments
for braille and also just as equally valid arguments for something
else electronic. Not to mention we haven't even talked about large
print which is necessary for those with low vision problems who don't
read braille but do need large print etc.

Cheers!


On 6/19/15, Charles Rivard <[email protected]> wrote:
I would like to see such advertisements made available to blind people in formats other than electronic for a change. Although they may be few, there

are people who prefer to do their own reading. There also may be people who

don't use a computer, but would if something gets their interest. What made

the computer gain popularity with businesses was a killer application--the
Spreadsheet.  Once their value was realized, we've never looked back.
Gaming could be the killer application for the blind, and you've got to find

out about the gaming field from somewhere.  Maybe through a friend or
something, but nothing beats reading about it unaided in any way, browsing a

catalog or advertisement pamphlet at your own pace and leisure. Braille is

the way to go. No machine is necessary. Read it yourself, just like anyone

else at conventions does.

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