I mean I had to jump through hoops to get that embosser. I was really pissed about it.
On 6/20/15, Josh K <[email protected]> wrote: > oh yes i do keep my braille for years. i get my thermoform from future > aids the braille superstore. I write pretty quick with the slate and > stylus and also the perkins brailler will write on thermoform as well. i > use the thermoform for my addressbook and other notes i want to last > long. and i have some lightweight standard ink printer paper for just > casual brailling like my 8 year old son's spelling words lists during > school. I like to use braille to complement the technology I have. > > follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 > > On 6/20/2015 11:03 AM, Danielle Ledet wrote: >> Dark, that is what I was thinking. Jeremy, you are right but what >> would it hurt for someone to approach the orgs around convention time. >> I know NFB state affiliates Braille their own stuff and Im sure ACB >> does too. Maybe cost could be negotiated with them to do the >> Brailling. Then, you could reach out to rehab agencies and maybe some >> folks could leave a pamphlet heare and there at local libraries and >> health fairs and doctor offices. Just some off the top small thinking. >> Tom, exactly. Add to that the little sections at the end of the >> Braille Forum, the Braille Monitor, and the Blind Bargains >> classifieds. We wouldn't actually know what the cost would be until >> somebody produced this pamphlet and brailled out a sample and >> presented to the transcribers woud we? I don't see why it would be >> such a big deal for these resellers to stick that right in the middle >> of the Braille catalogs they send out or include it with audio media. >> It would be like all that extra stuff you get with your bank statement >> or phone bill or a Valpak coupon. Josh, I will look into this. I had a >> Juliet Classic in good working order and no telling where my parents >> put it. Might not even be usable anymore. So I need something and >> can't afford a heavy-duty printer like Juliet and don't have sponsors >> anymore. $300 would be doable over time though. Jeez, I never thought >> to write on thermoform myself. You must keep your Braille for years. >> Charles, I echo you. Braille Braille, Braille. Bring it back! I feel >> lost even after all these years being unable to quickly right >> something down or pick it up and read. Now I lose a lot of info with >> computers constantly being purposefully fried! Folks just don't >> understand. Nothing against the folks who love their newfound freedom >> with modern tech but I feel like they are at war with me personally. >> Well, folks since I keep having to make unnecessary repair, I'm never >> gling to ketch up! That should be obvious though. >> >> Danielle >> >> On 6/20/15, Charles Rivard <[email protected]> wrote: >>> If you can use screen magnification software on your PC, I would think >>> that >>> >>> you can also play graphically oriented games, and so would not fall into >>> the >>> >>> market this project is aimed at. >>> >>> If you are not braille literate due to a lack of its importance in your >>> life, and you rely on your audio speech technology, you can use a search >>> engine or Email, and are not a member of the target audience, either. >>> >>> That leaves those who get their information through the use of braille, >>> and >>> >>> who are not aware of the existence of computer games designed for blind >>> people. They may not even have a computer, and the gaming might be what >>> gets them interested. The braille readers who may be cut off from the >>> computer literate should be the focus. >>> >>> Maybe other methods of pamphlet distribution can be available at >>> conventions >>> >>> or other gathering events where there will be a lot of blind and >>> visually >>> impaired people, but I think that braille should be the main media >>> format. >>> >>> --- >>> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're >>> finished, >>> >>> you! really! are! finished! >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Thomas Ward" <[email protected]> >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:08 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] braille/large print/other media for audio games >>> (was >>> >>> info games game engines) >>> >>> >>>> Hi Charles, >>>> >>>> Interesting you brought the subject up of preference for braille over >>>> electronic formats because it is one I think directly needs addressed. >>>> Main reason I feel it needs to be addressed is we have something of a >>>> generational gap here in this country and perhaps around the world. >>>> >>>> There are undoubtedly older blind people who grew up on braille, were >>>> taught to use it for anything and everything, and have a personal >>>> preference for braille materials when and where possible. Now, we have >>>> many younger blind people, particularly millennials, who favor >>>> technology over braille. Some will outright state braille is no longer >>>> relevant, and have abysmal to little braille literacy because they >>>> spend their day using their iPhone, iPad, PC or some other gadget >>>> which has replaced the use of braille in his or her life. >>>> >>>> In short, if someone were to go move forward with this informational >>>> campaign it might be better to offer more than one method of >>>> distribution or format. I can clearly see there are valid arguments >>>> for braille and also just as equally valid arguments for something >>>> else electronic. Not to mention we haven't even talked about large >>>> print which is necessary for those with low vision problems who don't >>>> read braille but do need large print etc. >>>> >>>> Cheers! >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/19/15, Charles Rivard <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I would like to see such advertisements made available to blind people >>>>> in >>>>> formats other than electronic for a change. Although they may be few, >>>>> there >>>>> >>>>> are people who prefer to do their own reading. There also may be >>>>> people >>>>> >>>>> who >>>>> >>>>> don't use a computer, but would if something gets their interest. >>>>> What >>>>> made >>>>> >>>>> the computer gain popularity with businesses was a killer >>>>> application--the >>>>> Spreadsheet. Once their value was realized, we've never looked back. >>>>> Gaming could be the killer application for the blind, and you've got >>>>> to >>>>> find >>>>> >>>>> out about the gaming field from somewhere. Maybe through a friend or >>>>> something, but nothing beats reading about it unaided in any way, >>>>> browsing a >>>>> >>>>> catalog or advertisement pamphlet at your own pace and leisure. >>>>> Braille >>>>> >>>>> is >>>>> >>>>> the way to go. No machine is necessary. Read it yourself, just like >>>>> anyone >>>>> >>>>> else at conventions does. >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Be positive! 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