well I have hal and jaws on here. One of these I'd like to get the gw stuff to. Both hal and jaws were funded by various agencies for various courses. True I have had to pay a bit for upgrades but its not as much as I would have had to do if I got it all myself. At 04:36 a.m. 7/02/2008, you wrote:
>Yes I agree that gw micro do seem to be better to my mind. I don't disagree. >Far from it. I like how they especially don't release something until >they've ironed out as best they can all the bugs. I've had 6.1 for nearly a >year and it's great. What am saying is though, is that something like we is >still a lot of money for what it is. Yes I feel like I've got more bang for >my buck for the following reasons: > >1. unrestricted amount of installs. I love that feature! Instead of having >to mucl around with pothetic ILM's from jaws I don't have to worry about >that. Especially as I've formatted my machine once in the last 3 months and >now because of hardware issues, I have recently replaced most of the >hardware in it so I've had to have it formatted again. New mobo, CPU the >works. >2. it doesn't matter what ms opperating system I use. Whether it be xp home >or pro, vista home, premium business etc etc so on and so forth. There's >none of this stupidness about having to buy windoweyes pro where as with >jaws that's what you have to do. With jaws there's not just a jaws pro cost >there's also a jaws pro SMA. And yes, there's a cost banged on to that as >well. Yes fs rip you off they really are the microsoft of the blind world >and I don't care who's on here that works for them. Like it. >3. I don't know if it's available in the UK I never bothered to ask but at >least with gw there's a payment plan that people can make use of should they >wish to. That I like and respect probably that above any other reason I >mention here. whilst the product is expencive at least they are aware that >not everybody working or otherwise has the money to make a pc talk by >purchasing something that is more expencive than most computers. >4. you get 3 SMA's instead of 2 with jaws. >They are the 4 main reasons why I think that we is better value for money. >But equally what I will say that it is a lot of money for what it is. Now >there are free screen readers out there, and some of them I've herd from >various sources are coming on quite nicely, I think may end up forcing the >prices of the likes of fs and gw down. Which I think is a good thing. > >I'm not saying that gw isn't a bad company actually I don't think it is. I >like it. But even so for those people out there that have families, kids >what ever, lets face it, 700 quid just to make a computer talk and that's >not even talking about a braille display, how would you justify that to your >kids who are young? It's not realistic is it. I don't have any kids. Am >lucky whilst am not single financially I am my own dependent. >-----Original Message----- >From: Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 05 February 2008 22:02 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day > > >Hi there. >I think that gwmicro are one of the more ethical blindness technology >companies. >I was in a situation where I needed more than 40 minutes at a time to >evaluate wineyes, because of an issue with the computer crashing >sometimes whilst jaws was speaking. >I was using an old jaws version and wanted to see if the new version >would fix the issue. >annoyingly, it never crashed during the 40 minute window, I tried >ringing up my local dealer and asked if they had a 60 day timed >evaluation, and the guy proceeded to give me a lecture about how >freedom scifi dont do timed evaluations any more and then he tried to >tell me that the 40 minute demo was enough time to do whatever I >wanted to do. I tried to explain the situation about my soundcard >but he didnt' seem to want to take it in. >This from an old schoolfriend of 16 years, I couldn't believe the >elitest crap he was spouting about how freedom scifi need to make >money, and nothing is free, etc, etc, they must have him brainwashed >or something. >On the other hand, when I tried the same approach with gwmicro, they >were much friendlier, and they sent me a special version of wineyes >which would run for 60 days. >Moral of the story? if you charge $3000 for a product with crap tech >support to go along with it, and make the demo restrictions too >harsh, then you have it coming to you! >At 06:56 AM 6/02/2008, you wrote: >>Here's my take on the subject. >> >>If you're a pirate, you're a pirate. You can't say any more than that. >>Whether it be downloading mp3's or games or what ever. Games and >>software I don't pirate in case I need the technical support. But for >>stull like jaws cracks and the like I can definitely see why they are >>around. But then again if a company wants to charge stupid prices for a >>product then they deserve everything they get. Just because it's a >>small market doesn't give fs or gw micro the right to scoop the market >>for all the cash they can. >> >>Like I say I don't pirate software because I want the technical support >>that goes with it. Also because sometimes cracked versions of software >>can leed to all sorts of strange and wonderful problems. Am lucky >>enough to have a credit card so I can buy what I want and pay it back >>in the manor of time that sutes me. Not only that, with cracks, there's >>not always the guarantee that you will be able to upgrade to the latest >>version. So if a person is sensable, certain things you don't get >>cracked versions of. But you can't define a difference. You are either >>a pirate or you aren't. if you're going to shoot someone down for >>pirating a game then you have to do the same thing for anybody who >>pirates music or shares it. There is no difference. >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your >>subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1259 - Release Date: 04/02/2008 >20:42 > > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. 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