Hello list as a new audio gamer can any one let me know some sites
where I can look at what games are available many thanks wayne 

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   1.  SendSpace Question (Hayden Presley)
   2.  Anyone thought of doing an accessible handheld trivia    game?
      (Chastity MORSE)
   3. Re:  re-off topic, programming question (Nick Helms)
   4. Re:  re-off topic, programming question (Nick Helms)
   5. Re:  re-off topic, programming question (Tristan B)
   6. Re:  off topic programming question (Thomas Ward)
   7. Re:  re-off topic, programming question (Thomas Ward)
   8. Re:  off topic programming question (Pranav Lal)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:38:21 -0500
From: "Hayden Presley" <hdpres...@hotmail.com>
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Subject: [Audyssey] SendSpace Question
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Hi Shawn,

Could you please resend the link to the sendspace file you created? I seemed
to have some problems opening it, for some reason.

Hayden



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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:45:40 -0500
From: "Chastity MORSE" <chastitymo...@msn.com>
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Subject: [Audyssey] Anyone thought of doing an accessible handheld
        trivia  game?
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Hi.
This question is for all the game makers/programmers out there and I'm not 
one, sorry.
I was browsing through the web last night because I learnt about some 
accessible hand held games that were originally produced by the Hazbro 
company.
Hazbro has an electronic hand held trivia game available right now. Plus you

can download questions to the unit.
Is there any way possible to contract with Hazbro to put voice chips in 
those games so blind people could play them?
Or contact them to see if it can be done by one of our programmers to make 
the games accessible?
Maybe, someone could buy one and take a look at it and see if something like

this is even attemptable to try.

Anyway, just thought I'd ask because trivia is questions and answers and not

graphics.
Chastity 




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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:21:02 -0700
From: Nick Helms <nick.he...@gmail.com>
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thank you!

On 9/26/09, Chastity MORSE <chastitymo...@msn.com> wrote:
> Hi Nick. I'm not sure what you're trying to program, but if you want
lessons
> in html, xhtml, php, css, SQL, java, and more try:
>
> <a href=http://www.w3schools.com";>w3schools<a>
>
> For some reason, even though I type the link in correct code, they aren't
> working right, so below is what the address is supposed to be if you copy
> and paste it.
>
> http://www.w3schools.com
>
> But, I hope the link will work correctly. I've been taking these lessons
as
> I'm working on building my own website from scratch. At the end of each
> lesson is a small quiz of 20 questions to see how well you learnt the
> course, but it's up to you if you want to go back and reread the course or
> not.
> However, if you think you're good enough and might be able to use one for
a
> job or something in the programming field; you can pay to take the full
exam
> and get a legitimate certificate for css, xhtml, and others.
>
> I hope this helps a bit. Good luck.
> Chastity
>
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:30:29 -0700
From: Nick Helms <nick.he...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] re-off topic, programming question
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Those all look like tutorials for webpage creation.
Is there anywhere where I can learn actual programming languages(C, VB,
python)?
That site looks great. It?s just not exactly what I?m looking for.
Thanks,
Nick


On 9/26/09, Nick Helms <nick.he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> thank you!
>
> On 9/26/09, Chastity MORSE <chastitymo...@msn.com> wrote:
>> Hi Nick. I'm not sure what you're trying to program, but if you want
>> lessons
>> in html, xhtml, php, css, SQL, java, and more try:
>>
>> <a href=http://www.w3schools.com";>w3schools<a>
>>
>> For some reason, even though I type the link in correct code, they aren't
>> working right, so below is what the address is supposed to be if you copy
>> and paste it.
>>
>> http://www.w3schools.com
>>
>> But, I hope the link will work correctly. I've been taking these lessons
>> as
>> I'm working on building my own website from scratch. At the end of each
>> lesson is a small quiz of 20 questions to see how well you learnt the
>> course, but it's up to you if you want to go back and reread the course
>> or
>> not.
>> However, if you think you're good enough and might be able to use one for
>> a
>> job or something in the programming field; you can pay to take the full
>> exam
>> and get a legitimate certificate for css, xhtml, and others.
>>
>> I hope this helps a bit. Good luck.
>> Chastity
>>
>>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:40:43 -0400
From: "Tristan B" <theblinddj...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] re-off topic, programming question
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Hello Nick,
Here are some useful links.
For Python:
www.python.org
For Visual C++, Visual Studio, Visual Basic, etc.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/
For AutoIt Scripting:
http://www.autoitscript.com
For AutoHotkey:
http://autohotkey.com
For Just-Basic:
http://www.justbasic.com
For MOO:
http://moo-cows.com
or
http://trekgames.net/moo
Try Googling programming:
http://google.com/search?q=blind%20programming

I hope this helps, and a suggestion: please keep programming-related (off 
topic) subjects off list, I am not even close to being a moderator, but a 
recommendation; this topic has been brought up alot recently and the mods 
may start cracking down :-).

Tristan B

TrekGames.net

Cosmos ?
TrekGames.net, port 1234.

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From: "Nick Helms" <nick.he...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] re-off topic, programming question


Those all look like tutorials for webpage creation.
Is there anywhere where I can learn actual programming languages(C, VB, 
python)?
That site looks great. It?s just not exactly what I?m looking for.
Thanks,
Nick


On 9/26/09, Nick Helms <nick.he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> thank you!
>
> On 9/26/09, Chastity MORSE <chastitymo...@msn.com> wrote:
>> Hi Nick. I'm not sure what you're trying to program, but if you want
>> lessons
>> in html, xhtml, php, css, SQL, java, and more try:
>>
>> <a href=http://www.w3schools.com";>w3schools<a>
>>
>> For some reason, even though I type the link in correct code, they aren't
>> working right, so below is what the address is supposed to be if you copy
>> and paste it.
>>
>> http://www.w3schools.com
>>
>> But, I hope the link will work correctly. I've been taking these lessons
>> as
>> I'm working on building my own website from scratch. At the end of each
>> lesson is a small quiz of 20 questions to see how well you learnt the
>> course, but it's up to you if you want to go back and reread the course
>> or
>> not.
>> However, if you think you're good enough and might be able to use one for
>> a
>> job or something in the programming field; you can pay to take the full
>> exam
>> and get a legitimate certificate for css, xhtml, and others.
>>
>> I hope this helps a bit. Good luck.
>> Chastity
>>
>>
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:46:41 -0400
From: Thomas Ward <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
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Hi Nick,

Sorry, but I don't believe there is any such program. Besides, speaking 
from experience, you would be better off signing up to a service like
safari.oreilly.com
and reading all the professionalbooks they have on a given programming 
topic.

In my experience a lot of people want a cheap, quick and easy way to 
program, but there really is no such thing. Programming takes hundreds 
of hours studying, practicing, and learning. Just when you start getting 
good enough at what you do the technology changes and you need to update 
what you know with what's new, what has changed, and be prepared to 
adopt new ways of doing things if you want to keep up with programming 
trends. So even if there was a "training program" it would have to be 
updated regularly to make sure it meets all current programming trends, 
advancements, etc. Here is a simple example.

When I was in college I took an introduction course on the Java 
programming language which covered the Java 1.1 specification. The very 
next year after I took that class Sun released Java 1.2 which totally up 
ended and changed a lot of the things I knew. I had to get books from 
Safari and read up on all the changes between 1.1 and 1.2. Now, the 
current release is Java 1.6, and while not as dramatic as the switch 
from 1.1 to 1.2 I've had to keep my ear to the ground when it comes to 
changes, new core packages, classes, etc in order to keep up with an 
evolving programming language.

I had a similar experience with Visual Basic. I took Visual Basic 6 in 
98 or 99, and by 2002 what I had learned was out dated crap. VB 7, AKA 
VB .NET 2002, was released in 2002, and introduced a lot of new 
concepts, was totally like a new programming language, compared to what 
I had taken in college. Which all goes to show a programmer has to 
constantly learn, upgrade, and learn some more if he/she wants to stay 
remotely current with his/her skills.

Nick Helms wrote:
> Hello all,
> I was wondering if anyone new of an application that would introduce
> you to the basics of programming?
> Sort of like a program that would teach you a programming language?
> If anyone knows of anything like this, please let me know.
> Thanks,
> nick
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:50:56 -0400
From: Thomas Ward <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
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Hi Nick,
Sure is. My favorite web site is
http://safari.oreilly.com
and they have just about anything you can imagine in their library. It 
costs a bit for a subscription, but it is definitely worth every single 
penny.

Nick Helms wrote:
> Those all look like tutorials for webpage creation.
> Is there anywhere where I can learn actual programming languages(C, VB,
python)?
> That site looks great. It?s just not exactly what I?m looking for.
> Thanks,
> Nick
>   




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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:49:27 +0530
From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav....@gmail.com>
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] off topic programming question
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Nick,

See the fruit basket programs made by Jamal Mazrui at
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com/

The above site also has other programming related resources.

Pranav




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