Hi Muhammed, Counter sue means that if you are sued for something you file a lawsuit against the other party over some greavence you have with them. For example, Nintendo tries to sue me for creating an accessible version of Marrio I would have grounds to counter sue them for accessibility and civil rights violations as they had not provided the software in accessible format, nor were they available to be questioned about getting propper permission to do the title.
Cheers! On 11/30/10, Shiny protector <muhamme...@googlemail.com> wrote: > What does counter sue mean? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:34 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] Mainstream Access was Bavisoft > > >> Hi Dark, >> >> Yeah, I know. To be honest I'm just about fed up with talking to and >> listening to mainstream game companies for that reason. Although, I'm >> very aware of copyright laws I'm pretty much ready to say if I want to >> play Super Mario Brothers, a Star Wars game, etc just go ahead and >> write the thing and say to heck with copyright laws. After all >> Nintendo, Lucas Arts, won't pay attention to us now, and the only >> thing that actually gets their attention is copyright infringement. So >> bring it on. What's the wworst they can do besides fining me and >> getting a judge to make me stop production of said game/games? >> >> I'm willing to bet that they wouldn't be too willing to drag such a >> case through the courts. Yeah, on the surface it might seam like a >> simple case of copyright infringement, but if they do that to me I can >> turn around and counter sue the company over civil rights violations. >> It is the kind of explosive case that would get plenty of media >> attention, negative publicity for them, and since it is a civil rights >> issue could go all the way to the Supreme Court. Most companies don't >> want to bring that kind of negative media attention upon themselves. >> >> "Today, Nintendo sued a blind developer for creating free clones of >> Nintendo's classic arcade games such as Mario and Megaman for fellow >> blind PC gamers. According to Mr. Ward he wrote the games because the >> games are currently not accessible in a blind friendly format, and he >> repeatedly tried to contact the company over access issues but got >> stone walled. He says he plans to counter sue Nintendo over civil >> rights violations, and take it to the Supreme Court if necessary." >> >> Great. I'm not sure such a news paper article or new broadcast would >> help the company's image. Its that kind of negative publicity that has >> them wanting to cover their butts, because it will make them look like >> jurks and smear the company's name. Although, I'm not sure that kind >> of negative publicity would effect most gamers though. I remember the >> recent court case where a blind kid sued a major game company and the >> opinions on Game Spot, Game Facts, etc were pretty negative towards >> the blind guy. They were in fact downright hostile about the whole >> situation as they felt that blind people don't need to play games, >> that we shouldn't demand access, and we should go make our own games >> or something. I have no idea if the general public shares this view, >> but it is really a civil rights issue, and one that needs to be >> addressed. Either they make the gmaes accessible or the allow >> third-paryt developers like myself to create accessible versions for >> limited distribution for blind gamers. >> >> >> Thing is I'm all for a diplomatic solution. I'd love to sit down with >> these guys and talk access and help them find ways to resolve the >> issue. however, it seams like that solution has failed, and that the >> only thing these companies will listen to is money or being ssued to >> hell and back over it. Fortunately, for me I know a major crisis is >> coming that will kick them in their complacency. The baby boomer >> generation that holds a huge amount of wealth in this country is >> reaching retirement age, and a lot of them started out with the Atari >> 2600 and graduated to game systems like the Nintendo Wii in recent >> years. What is Nintendo going to say in 10 years when a 70 year oldman >> or woman can no longer play that Wii and they happen to be a large >> majority of the citizens on planet earth with a large portion of the >> wealth? >> >> >> >> Cheers! >> >> >> On 11/30/10, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote: >>> This is again why I am convinced that smaller, indi games companies are >>> the >>> way forward as far as game access goes rather than Lucas arts or similar. >>> >>> As Karl marx himself said 150 years ago, the overriding principle here is >>> prophit, and prophit isn't a thing which pays any attention to the good >>> of >>> anyone, ----- and only takes into account their wants or desires to an >>> extent that they may generate more prophit. >>> >>> While it's possible that, if in 20 or 30 or so years when gamers start >>> losing their vision the major companies will take notice (and even then >>> probably not), I doubt very much it'll happen in the mean time. >>> >>> Btw, it is probable George himself may have had a different opinion, not >>> because I think anything particularly good of him, just because I've >>> found >>> generally speaking that if you speak to someone who actually takes time, >>> trouble and pride in designing and creating things, they are much more >>> open >>> ad receptive to change. >>> >>> I'm not saying all small developers are saints, ----- they aren't, and >>> I've >>> certainly had my share of people telling me to bugger off when I suggest >>> access changes, but I would say the majority are at least interested, and >>> >>> a >>> good part of the interested ones will actually do something useful. >>> >>> Witness the recent changes in Core exiles interface which resulted just >>> from >>> a reasonable conversation with the developer and a bit of give and take. >>> >>> Beware the Grue! >>> >>> Dark. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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