Hi Alfredo, I'm sorry, but can you explain to us all why that matters? While we're at it, let's say he misspelled decency. And while we're at that, let's say that you should have you reply at the top of the message. Frankly, I don't think any of us really cares.
Best Regards, Hayden -----Original Message----- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Alfredo Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:55 PM To: kev lyon; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] from the list owner - recent events On 7/21/2011 3:34 PM, kev lyon wrote: > hi all, well yet again the audyssey list shoots itself squarely in the head! for only about the tenth time in the ten years i've been on it! > and yet again, it's, frankly, pathetic! i've seen 5 year olds behave better than this. > i'm not going to pick names out and spend the next hour going through individual comments, who said what and who did this and that! because, to be honest, i'd be wasting my evening. > > so i shall keep it fairly short and to the point. > > thomas, i'd say this was your first major outburst on list of this nature in the years you've been on here, and you have took time out to think, and publicly appologised to the list for your comments. it's a pity several other members haven't had the descency and the guts to do the same! > > so, thomas will be staying as a list moderator (if he so wishes), this is not up for discussion, my decision is final! > this is purely because, based on the recent applicants when raul left, there are very few members interested in moderating anyhow, and also based on the recent behaviour this week, there's very few members putting up a convincing argument for themselves to moderate!! they apparently can't even follow the guidelines, let alone enforce them! > > i think everyone needs to remember, developers of all sorts in the community, on the whole do what they do as a hobby. it's not theri livelihood, it's not their 9-5 full time job, and some of them have families and lives outside of this community. we've lost so many developers over the years for basically the same reason. member s nag nag naggin them 24/7 about when a game will be out. bitching on list because they don't like this element of a game, or this doesn't work and why haven't you sorted it, this game was due out 2 minutes ago, why isn't it! etc etc. > > a game will be released as and when the developer is happy with it. whether that takes 3 weeks or 12 months is entirely upto that developer. if you don't like that, go play a different game in the meantime, or write your own! > because one thing is for sure, if a game is released early in order to keep the moaners quiet, it will be those said same moaners who will be on the developers back the next day because there's 23 bugs in the game. > > if you don't like what someone has said on list, you contact the moderators OFF LIST!!!! and if it's a moderator your unhappy with, then you come to me as list owner. this is clearly written in the guidelines, and has been said so often on list over the years it's ridiculous! > > so, any further comments on the recent events are not permitted on list! anyone posting such comments, will be instantly moderated, > no excuses, the line above should be clear even to those 5 year olds i mentioned earlier if they were to read it. > > i'm doing this simply because, there's guaranteed to be one or two people who will drag this on for days unless measures are put in place, and the list traffic is too high to put everyone on moderated status and run the list effectively. if anyone wants to comment, you contact me off list. > > i think as moderators we are extremely relaxed on list traffic. now if people, and that includes the moderators themselves, want to push the limits, then i will be quite happy to enforce the guidelines TO THE LETTER in future. there are plenty of lists around who are extremely strict on their content, and in my experience, they are generally less interesting as they have no personality at all. so let's not put the audyssey list in that situation. > > after all folks, we're talking about gaming here, something that is supposed to be fun, entertaining, relaxing after a hard day. but let's also remember, and this goes for all developers, those developers are human beings with lives to lead, and they have no obligation whatsoever to write the games. > so think about it the next time your writing a "when is game x being released" email, and it's the 14th time you've asked the same question to the same developer. all's your doing is pushing him to that undefined breaking point where he says "you know what? i don't need this crap! i'm done!" > and the same goes for the developers, try not to bring any resentment of customers/members on list. again, if anyone is bugging you, come to the moderators, or in tom's case come to me as owner. > > this community has done it's best to self combust a number of times over the years, and one day it will blow itself apart if we let it. > so all i ask, is people think before they post. if something annoys you on list, dont instantly hit the reply button, ... leave it alone for a bit before replying, or come to the mods or myself. > > so let's put the last few days behind us and move on. > > thanks all. :) > kevin > kr...@eklyon.co.uk > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > Hello, The message has a few miscapitalization, mainly with the "I" part. 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