Hi, I'd love to know why you're being conservatism into this discussion. I too am a conservative, and I can say that part of the philosiph of convertaism relates to not being lazy. As was previously stated, many people who end up with horrible grammar and speling erros are native English speakrs, and it is only due ot sheer laziness that they refuse to attempt to type with better grammar. I do't think we should all have to know how to use who and whom, but...
Best Regards, Hayden -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ryan Strunk Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:18 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Are we Done Yet I come back to the Audyssey list after a few days, and we're flooded with messages which appear to have been spawned as a result of a few of you getting your shorts in a twist over typos. Seriously people? And you want to put proper grammar in the guidelines? Tongue in cheek note: one of the biggest proponents of doing so is a staunch conservative! You should be arguing for less moderation, not more. So look. First and foremost, typos, bad spelling, and bad grammar are not endemic to blind people. Examples, even websites, abound of typos made by the Average Joe on a daily basis. I checked. I don't think I need tell you--though I'm going to anyway because I like the view from my high horse--that since blind people make up one third of one percent of this country, there's a 99.7% chance those typos were made by the sighted. In fact, just as I finished typing the previous sentence, this came across my Twitter feed: "Username posted I do believe the customer service rep at my bank meant I need to add a recipient on my account, not a reciprocant." Case, meet point. You guys should go grab a cup of coffee or something. Get to know each other. So why are we getting so thoroughly riled up about this business of hard to understand posts? It seems to me that one of the following methods should solve your problem nicely. 1. Delete posts from people you can't stand to read. I'm going to come right out and say that there are about six people on this who I flatly refuse to read posts from, either because they're posts are downright hard to read or because they contribute nothing to any discussion.* You should try it. You'd be amazed how much time and frustration you'll save yourself. *The first clause of that paragraph's first sentence contained a hanging preposition. Sorry about that, but I'm too lazy to fix it. Please don't start a new thread over it. 2. Take your frustration off list. If you're tired of poorly-composed emails and you want something done about it, try approaching the offender off list with an offer of help. Publically blasting them for their shortcomings just makes you look petty. Which leads me to point 3. 3. GET OVER IT! This is my favorite method of dealing with the problem, and you wouldn't believe how much it has cut down on the stress in my life. There are things in life that are worth getting worked up over, and there are things that are not. Having a bird flap down to the rock you're chained to and eating your liver every day should piss you off. Reading poorly-written emails should not. I'm going to pick on Dark for a minute because I respect the guy, I know he can take it, and because he has said himself that he has a lax attitude toward spelling in informal communication. His lack of properly-doubled letters used to piss me off to no end, and I would get thoroughly angry when I read his posts. At some point, though, I realized that, in spite of the occasional hiccups he gave my speech synthesizer, his writings contained a great deal of well-reasoned, intelligent material and were worth reading, warts and all. Are proper spelling and grammar important? Absolutely--on tests, job applications, cover letters, grant requests, and any number of other professional documents. But this list is not a professional document; it's a hobby.* Treat it as such. Enjoy it. Have fun with it. Don't use it as a place to vent your frustrations on blind people with poor literacy skills. *except for those of you who write 30 posts a day. For you, it's a way of life. When Jeremy Hartley started the " Blind Gamers Being Taken Seriously?" thread, he dispensed some excellent advice about working with the sighted public, specifically mainstream developers. Since then, the thread has been high jacked by people who insist on turning the blind gamers list into grammar school. If those of you who are guilty of this really want to help fix the situation, see method 2 above and keep your criticisms off the list. And if you still can't get over it, go shoot a zombie in the face. It will be much more productive, and it will save the rest of us the clutter. Now if you'll pardon me, I'm getting saddle sores. 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